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Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team [message #849392 is a reply to message #849390 ]	Wed, 07 January 2026 12:33

Kr55
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Mike wrote on Wed, 07 January 2026 11:32

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 07 January 2026 13:34

It's funny because how we went after Hyman was the exact same thought process that had him go after Campbell. Shiny object on the UFA market, outbid everyone else for it. It's really just dumb luck that Hyman worked out. Holland has a looooooong list of getting players that way that were complete disasters in Detroit. And Hyman's looking as great as he does is largely because he plays with McDavid so much. On many other teams, his contract would be seen as questionable still. So McDavid was here to make Holland look good for once on a UFA pickup.

I'm not Holland fan, and I wasn't excited about the Hyman signing - thought it was just another Leaf being talked up more than he was worth.

But regardless of linemates, you have to give Holland at least a bit of credit for it. Hyman has been almost a PPG player in his time here, a 50 goal campaign, and in last year's playoffs he elevated to a whole other level. Probably the 3rd best player on the team. Had the most hits of anyone in the playoffs by a mile when he got hurt. Still finished with the most with only 15gp. I really believe if we had him in the finals we would have won a Cup the way he was playing.

Anyway - I'm all in for crapping on Holland for almost all of his moves, but to me, this one was a homerun.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love Hyman. But just saying if it was a 28 year old David Clarkson that was playing with Marner/Matthews going to UFA that year, Holland would have done the exact same thing and outbid the Leafs for him.

Holland's history pretty clearly shows to me there is not that much deep analysis or foresight of chemistry that he's pursuing players for. He's just looking for shiny objects and if he has a hole in his lineup to fill, he would blow all his cap space on the shiniest most hyped up thing he can afford, ideally without having to to the hard thing of negotiating with another GM for it, since we know you can never squeeze another GM.

Maybe I'm being a bit petty, but I just refuse to give that much credit for dumb luck. When a guy is doing the same thing over and over and finally gets a hit on the 10th try, and then proceeds to fail again and again on even more attempts, it kinda kills some of the credit they should get for the 1 hit.

Another way to frame it. If you were hiring a GM right now and were evaluating Holland's performance. You see that he kept signing UFA's every summer to try to fill gaping holes he never seems to fill in his lineup (he also badly overpays his own overrated UFA's of course), but that one time he landed Hyman, and then of course does Campbell right after. How much credit would you give him on your GM scorecards for that Hyman signing? I would give very little personally. UFA signings in general would be near the bottom of my list of important GM skills. Drafting, trading, development (not trading players away right before they break out for someone else, or devaluing them badly with poor development/opportunity). Those kinds of things way ahead.

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2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 08 December 2025 19:21
Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Mike on Tue, 09 December 2025 07:07
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Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Kr55 on Wed, 31 December 2025 20:07
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Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Kr55 on Wed, 07 January 2026 10:34
Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Mike on Wed, 07 January 2026 11:32
Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Kr55 on Wed, 07 January 2026 12:33
Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: Adam on Wed, 07 January 2026 14:31
Re: 2026 Mens Olympic Team	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 07 January 2026 10:31
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