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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Mike wrote on Wed, 03 December 2025 11:19 |
| Jay wrote on Wed, 03 December 2025 13:46 |
I'll never understand why Holland gets such a pass from the media in Edmonton. They are happy to pile on Chiarelli every chance they get - and yes he was bad - but Holland was just as bad if not worse considering what he was given to work with. Just mind bogglingly awful in so many ways. I'm assuming he made sure the media lounge was always stocked with free pizza and donuts though which is what's really important to the scribes.
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This smartest guy in the room thing has been going on forever.
The Reinhart trade is one of the dumbest moves ever. In one of the deepest drafts ever, they throw away a pick that could have been Barzal, Kyle Connor, Chabot, Eriksson Ek, Boeser, Konecny, or even Roslovic PLUS an early 2nd (33) that could have been Sebastian Aho for a stiff that could even crack a lackluster Isles lineup. I admit talking about Aho with the 2nd pick is 100% hindsight (Mackenzie Blackwood also went a few picks later), but that #16 pick - that alone was a disaster.
Trading Hall straight up for Adam Larsson. I remember seeing the headline "Hall for Larsson" and looking forward to seeing what else was in the package we got for Hall...
Eberle for Cap Space was awesome as well.
Not securing Broberg and Holloway. Or even matching Holloway
And passing on Wallstedt when he fell into their laps.
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The Holland era drafting is very poor. So far, there's been only two NHL players - Broberg and Holloway - out of those five years. About the only ones left that even stand a chance of increasing that number are Reid Schaefer (he's played 3 games for Nashville this year) and Samuel Jonsson (oh please oh please let him develop in to a real NHL goalie...)
On top of that, we ignored Cole Caufield and Trevor Zegras in order to take Broberg ahead of where he was ranked (I wanted Caufield badly - as I thought a release like that would have been a real asset on this team). Holloway also was a stretch - he was ranked further down too - although in the end there's not a lot that are way above him. Dawson Mercer I guess (who went 4 picks later).
It's not really fair on management to just go back and re-draft the best player but if you look at these threads year after year, there wasn't a lot of confidence we were making the right decision even immediately after the trade - in part because year after year it was a surprise pick.
I do think it's funny that Holland (and some posters in here) talked about how important it was to keep some of that draft capital because we "weren't in our window to win yet" and now when you look back at it you have to ask - what actual NHL player on an expiring contract could the Oilers have had if they were just willing to give up the pick that became Raphael Lavoie or Carter Savoie or Xavier Bourgault. I feel relatively confident that even if they'd immediately left as UFAs, those adds would have benefitted the franchise more than the players we picked have - even for Holloway and Broberg.
As a side note - I'm still really annoyed that we have blocked Jonsson's progress to AHL games by stacking our minors full of 30+ year old netminders...
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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