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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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| Mike wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 10:07 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 22 April 2025 12:30 |
Skinner's numbers are worse than Pickard's but he's also played all the good teams, and left most of the games against the scrubs to his backup (again showing that the Oilers have fully embraced the 1990s approach to goaltending).
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The only apples to apples comparison I can think of is against Vancouver last year. Playoffs, mostly the same roster on both team for all 7 games.
Skinner: 283 minutes played, 15 goals against. .833, 3.18
Pickard: 136 minutes played, 5 goals against. .915, 2.21
I get the trepidation about Pickard being a career backup. But what the hell has Skinner done to give you so much faith in him?
Pickard played great in the playoffs last year.
That go ahead goal by Garland last year in game 1 - NONE of the ones on Pickard were close to that bad. I just watched the 5 goals Skinner let in that game.
First one, out of position and slow to get across.
Second, scored from behind the net. Stinky
Third, post not sealed (crazy how many go in on him there)
Fourth, that one was pretty good. Good shot from the point, lots of bodies, may have deflected.
And that famous fifth goal by Garland - just brutal.
And for fun I went to look at the 5 Pickard let in over 2+ games
First - screened and deflected twice. No chance.
Second - 5 people in and around the crease and bounced off a leg. Not much chance
Third - Bunch of bodies in front and screened. Probably the most stoppable of the 5. Looked like the 4th on Skinner from game 1.
4th - Bouchard serves up a huge pepperoni pizza from point blank. No chance.
5th - crazy hard deflection off Petterson's skate on a hard pass across, off the post and right onto Miller's stick. No chance.
You could argue that Skinner has had more great games than Pickard (I don't necessarily agree, but MAYBE). But Skinner lets in a LOT more bad goals than Pickard. They are just killers. Pickard, though he may not stand on his head (he has a few times), he doesn't let in many bad goals. He is closer to the Osgood type guy we need IMO than Skinner.
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To be fair, I don't have faith in Stuart Skinner. I would have traded him when he was a Calder candidate after watching him stumble in the playoffs versus Vegas when his value was probably at its peak. I was advocating for that at the time.
In 2021 I would have thanked the hockey gods when Jesper Wallstedt fell to the Oilers rather than trading backwards for Xavier Bourgault (who, incidentally, we traded for a guy who only got in 2 AHL games all year).
I would have replaced Pickard with a guy who had a chance to be a 1A at least so that Skinner was pushed and challenged and if he fumbled he lost the net - both last year and this year. Failing to do that, and watching Skinner's start to this season, I would have addressed that position with one of the several different options that changed hands this year - including if need be selling a lot at the deadline to pick up someone else so that we aren't precisely in this position.
But we didn't, so we have what we have - a fragile hot-and-cold starter who could blow a series single-handedly, or who could get hot and win a bunch in a row and an aged backup who has never had great numbers in his entire career and played very little post-season games at any level.
It's really poor management to get to this point, but we are where we are. Skinner is the starter by design. The team has not wanted a 1A and has only provided a back-up behind him. They haven't done much for a #3 either. Rodrique regressing on the farm this year and I wonder if he even gets a contract offer this summer from the team.
If we're going to completely tear up the plan and go with the guy who's got nothing in his whole long career that suggests he's the kind of goalie you can win a Cup with, then that's sheer panic. I think if you've spent three years convincing yourself that Skinner is the only starter you need, then you need to give him more than one game before you throw the team's hopes behind Pickard.
If we'd got a different back-up who was younger/had more promise/had played some high level, high stakes hockey at any point in his history/tended to win games against good teams instead of losing them/etc. etc. etc. then I'm on board with a quick switch. This isn't exactly an Ullmark/Swayman decision though.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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