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smyth260 wrote on Fri, 22 November 2024 11:52

Hibernia wrote on Fri, 22 November 2024 09:56

The problem isn't Skinner. The problem is the team in front of him.

Just like Ullmark isn't the problem in Ottawa. It's the team in front of him. There's a reason why some goalies look great behind good teams and crappy when they get traded to a bad team.

When you have a team that doesn't give up the puck in the slot, your goalie looks good. When you continually turn the puck over in high-danger scoring areas, your goalie is going to suffer. And right now, there's a bunch of Oilers who have no idea how to handle the puck in their own end. It's brutal. Clean up the back-end and Skinner's good enough but he's not a goalie who will steal you too many games.


There is a lot of data this year that says the Oilers are actually a top team in the league at limiting high danger chances.

At some point, the Oilers need to expect more than “good enough” from their personnel from goaltenders to goalie coaches to management. Nobody wins a cup from accepting good enough. Skinner has to make a big save once in a while. And management probably should have seen the available backup role as an opportunity to upgrade the position rather than hand it to Pickard.


Yeah - all the advanced stats seem to suggest it IS goaltending. Do we have breakdowns? Yes - but statistically less than our opponents.

If you look at last night's game, Skinner never looked comfortable. He was giving up greasy rebounds (which resulted in a couple of the goals against and also some other dangerous scrambles) and he let in a couple of quite stoppable shots. He really didn't make ANY great saves - which has been a theme this year. We've run in to goalies making several circus stops and then there's Skinner (and Pickard) at the other end of the rink, where every good chance is in the back of the net.

Defence could be better, but I do think we have decided to try the Flyers' model from the 1990s. Have a great team, and constantly see if a mediocre goalie is enough to get by with. It didn't work with the Lindros-era Flyers and it's been an issue for the bulk of the McDavid era here.



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