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Re: Draisaitl Re-signs 8 yrs 14M AAV [message #837861 is a reply to message #837854 ]	Wed, 04 September 2024 12:41

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McDavid97 wrote on Tue, 03 September 2024 11:41

McDavid at 8*15.97 so combined they're 29.97
Bouchard at 10M

Nurse is going to have to be moved at some point or need the cap to explode

Hell yeah! Fantastic signing..unfortunate that old man Holland left them with the Nurse albatross and Bouchard not locked in long term. I still cant decide who did a worse job - Holland or Chiarelli. But moving forward the main thing is that 29 is locked up and 97 will follow.

For all complaints on Holland, Chiarelli was definitely worse. Look no further than the wasted 2018 and 2019 seasons.

Happy that Draisaitl is signed, always wish it could be a little lower, but that's business. I don't see him as one that is going to regress in the immediate future. Crazy to think this is his 2nd 8 year contract with the Oilers, so plus the entry level 3 years he has committed to 19 years of his life being an Oiler. It's great to see and I hope McDavid follows suit.

Chia's stupid need to make moves just for the sake of making moves definitely hurt more. Sadly though, now 5 years of lost drafting with Holland will now be a pain for Bowman. Really need some prospects coming up as the new McDavid/Drai/Bouch deals load the cap. Gonna be really hard to have anything now, since we probably start trading our first round picks every deadline to try to win ASAP.

So crazy how many years of McDrai we wasted already with inept management. Even wasted a conn Smythe performance by a losing team forward, which is really unprecedented in the last bunch of decades. And got a D performance that could have been conn smythe worthy a lot of seasons.

Ugh. Still burns, that first game of the finals where we had to go back to Nurse/Ceci and it so predictably set us up for pain, terrible read from Nurse and Ceci 4 mins into game 1. Fix the D Bowman, lol.

What was the worst Chia move? Hall for Larson? Doesn't look that bad with hindsight..Reinhart? Holland had Athanaseau..
Chia locked up 97 and 29 to killer deals in their prime years. Drafted Bouchard..

I'm really not trying to praise chirelli here but the ball was on a tee for someone competent to knock it out of the park. Instead we got Holland who tripped over his shoelaces on the way to the plate.

I mean, let's call it as it is - both were awful.

Trading the Barzal pick (plus a second!) for Reinhart because he missed out on Hamilton was ridiculously bad. If he'd gotten Hamilton, would have been great but his kneejerk back-up plan was so awful that it really set the team back.

Hall for Larsson, let's not kid ourselves - that was a dreadful trade. Hall had his best seasons in the years after that trade prior to his body breaking down. He'd shown great chemistry with Draisaitl - we could have had an absolutely incredible 1-2 punch the next year when everyone was healthy.

Yes - they needed a RHD, but the price they paid for a defence first guy was ridiculous and almost without precedence. I mean, imagine if they'd kept Hall, avoided signing Lucic and picked up Demers instead? His shelf life would not have been particularly long but would have been a good stop gap and they could have looked to add at that next trade deadline instead.

And as much as his trades have been maligned, that 2017 trade deadline where he only got David Desharnais despite the team playing well and having remarkable good health and the best goaltending we've had in the entire McDavid era was horrendous management. At the time they suggested they didn't think our window was open, but we were one bad call away from the Semi-Finals that year. Adding an impact player might have been the difference and if you're in the Final Four, then anything can happen. Nashville wasn't unbeatable, and even if we'd lost, a Finals against Sidney Crosby and the Penguins would have been an incredible learning moment for the young team.

With Holland, there's a lot of issues - his drafting sucked. His trades were generally not amazing. He had a couple good free agent signings, but his cap management was really poor and he made a bunch of unforced errors on re-signings like Kassian and Nurse that cost us greatly and may cost us yet in the future.

But the greatest issue with that fossil is that he had complete lack of urgency and wasted 5 years of McDavid & Draisaitl without a plan to get over the hump and lots of dead cap space throughout the entire term. Even though we made the Semi-Finals twice and the Finals once in that time, it's hard to give much credit to Holland. Both trips required ridiculous, record-breaking performances from McDavid & Draisaitl. Holland's contributions in those years were pitiful and his goaltending choices were a big reason that we lost playoff rounds to Colorado and Vegas.

The fact we've got to this point and haven't won a Cup with McDavid doing McDavid things year after year and Draisaitl matching him point for point in most post-seasons shows just how horribly bad both of those guys have been. I do think that if we don't win in the next 2-4 years, it will get a lot harder as those guys get in to their 30s, especially with $30MM+ tied up in the both of them.

All that said, I'm thrilled we're keeping Draisaitl. I always thought a deep run was the key to getting it done, and I think that's saved the day here. Here's hoping we can have another this year while the team could conceivably make some noise if they use LTIR well and make a couple big swings.

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Draisaitl Re-signs 8 yrs 14M AAV	By: smyth260 on Tue, 03 September 2024 08:39
Re: Draisaitl Re-signs 8 yrs 14M AAV	By: Kr55 on Tue, 03 September 2024 08:46
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Re: Draisaitl Re-signs 8 yrs 14M AAV	By: oilfan94 on Tue, 03 September 2024 12:57
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