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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 21 August 2024 01:51 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 22:25 |
| inverno76 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 22:55 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 13:44 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 13:41 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 12:30 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 12:53 |
| stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 20 August 2024 11:52 | Just hearing this info:
"Currently to be tendered an offer sheet, a player must: Have at least one NHL contract expire. Have played at least 80 NHL games if a forward or defenseman..."
Philip Broberg Career Stats: GP 81
Oilers played him on April 17 and 18, thereby exposing him to an offer sheet. Keep him off the bench for 2 meaningless games and he is not eligible for the offer sheet.
"Asset management" is not in the Oilers' dictionary.
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Do playoff games count toward the total?
If they don't.. Oilers really screwed up.
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Regular season only.
Issue would be, his agent would know this and likely would have been pressuring for Broberg to get over the 80 game mark. And Holland is such a nice guy, he probably kept Broberg in as long as he did to try to work the relationship.
MacT once shut Drai down 1 game before he would have burned an RFA year and that came back to bite us a bit with his agent. Players/agents know what's up.
Considering the Broberg relationship was already kinda sour, I wouldn't have given in and let them get the 80 games. He'd be holding out right now asking for a trade, and we could try to work a better trade for the org after his playoffs. Oh well though, Holland is out.
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Somebody really F'd up here then.
How do you NOT have a guy/system who monitors EVERY players RFA/UFA/contract status in real time?
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Giving our management the benefit of the doubt that they did know, but let him his 80 anyways. In general Holland didn't seem to care about our cap or what ppl would deal with after he would be gone, hence the Connor Brown deal and bonuses for Perry. Also, Holland seems to always take the nice generous guy approach with most things. Can afford to, the generational talents will always come through in the end, right? :)
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I believe this was debunked as not being factual. A few of the posts have been deleted. Lacking a source though.
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That the org knew? Or didn't know?
Or about how a manager can just do whatever if they have a generational talent, and things will always just work out?
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I think I read a short post by someone on lowetide that said that the 81st game wasn't a factor in the offer sheet for Broberg.. that he qualified based on playing in a 3rd season.. ??
Here is Wiki..
According to this the 80 games wasn't an issue.. it was his 3rd season and he signed his 3 year ELC when he was about 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_who_have_s igned_offer_sheets#:~:text=Teams%20have%20seven%20days%20to, Agent%20(Group%202%20RFA).
| Quote: | In the NHL, players who are restricted free agents can be, after being qualified by their current team, signed by another team to an offer sheet with salary greater than the qualifying offer.
Teams have seven days to match the offer, and if the offer is not matched, the team making the offer sheet must give up compensation (see here for details).
Currently to be tendered an offer sheet, a player must qualify as a Group 2 Restricted Free Agent (Group 2 RFA). To be considered a Group 2 RFA, a player must:
1. Reach the required number of professional seasons depending on the age of the player when he first signs his Standard Player Contract. (3 professional seasons for ages 18-21, 2 professional seasons for ages 22-23, and 1 professional season for ages 23 and older)
2. Have at least one NHL contract expire.
3. Be without a contract for the upcoming season.
4. Be tendered a qualifying offer by the current team by June 25 or the Monday after that year's NHL Entry Draft (whichever is later)
If any of those conditions has not been met, the player will not become a Group 2 RFA.
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Thanks for finding this info. I checked around for confirmation of the various CBA RFA terms but there's nothing relatively easy to find. Looks like the 80 game limit is for a Group 6 UFA (which despite its name is an RFA status) and is age 25+.
Articles like this one below show incomplete information that could misinform NHL followers about actual CBA RFA eligibility requirements:
https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/nhl-offer-sheet-com pensation-rules-restricted-free-agents/gwhzvmvbcjbsmyf3qlckh drz
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