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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 15 August 2024 12:17 |
| Adam wrote on Thu, 15 August 2024 11:56 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 15 August 2024 10:59 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 15 August 2024 10:55 |
My solution is simple. go back in time and select the highest ranked player in each draft rather than going with your gut.
Guhle and Zegras instead of Holloway and Broberg would look pretty good right now. And that's not even the only option.
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Could have traded Zegras at our leisure for a really solid RHD many times since that draft.
Holland and Wright's draft record here really needs to be studied. That was supposed to be the think Holland was good at, drafting and developing. We probably ended up with the worst 5 years of drafting in the org's history. Not like the 1st's were gone either, he picked in the first round 4 times. $25M, lol.
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Worst in history? I don't know - late Barry Fraser wasn't great too...that one year with no hits at all...yikes.
But yeah, the cupboards are lean, despite Holland saying that we couldn't afford to trade a bunch of these picks at deadlines...
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It's still early, but I'm not liking the odds of 2019-2022. I forgot about 1990, lol. Maybe there is some competition around that year. I mean, there has to be bonus bad points for Fraser around that time too because of the actual Tyler Wright pick!
At least we weren't paying $5M+head scout salary for those kinds of results back then. And we know Fraser wasn't even trying hard anymore after he got comfy in his job from early success.
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There's a few contenders there for worst drafting 5 years:
1986-90 - first rounders were Issel, Soberlak, Leroux, Soules, Allison. Only 500+ games guys were Shaun Van Allen (5th rd), Shjon Podein (8th rd), Josef Beranek (4th rd). Geoff Smith was close (462 GP) as a 3rd round. Anatoli Semenov only played 362 games, but he was awesome so points for that.
1996-2000 - first rounders: Devereaux, Descoteaux, Riesen, Henrich, Rita, Mikhnov. 500+ club - Devereaux (627 gp), Poti (824, 3rd rd), Chimera (1107, 5th rd), Horcoff (1008, 4th), Comrie (589, 3rd), Lombardi (536, 7th). Pisani was close also with 462 games.
To compare, 2019-23 - 1st rd - Broberg, Holloway, Bourgault, Schaefer (all could be gone this time next week!). Obviously no one at 500 games, but shockingly few games though down the list. 89 for Holloway, 81 for Broberg. Lavoie has 7 games, Matej Blumel has six (all with Dallas in 2022-23). And that's it! That's the whole list!!!
If we don't match, I think Lavoie will be the only one still with the organization from the first two drafts. For all that talk of refilling the pipe and not squandering draft picks on rentals, the team seems not to have had an issue squandering picks by just not getting the right guys, or not developing them. Worth noting, Blumel's numbers for the Stars AHL team look decent. He could yet be a player. 62 points in 72 AHL games last year and led that team in goals with 31.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireBobbyNicks
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