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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Thu, 27 June 2024 22:40 |
The issue with Keith was that Chicago never retained. That snowballed into giving Chicago the cap space to overpay Jones, and in addition we traded his brother to the Hawks to give them more leverage in enticing a family reunion.
The Jones deal reshaped and set the market that year and caused the Nurse overpay. If Holland demanded full retention the market probably completely changes. Was a year of Keith mentoring Bouchard worth 8 years of 9.25M of Nurse? Who’s to say Bouchard doesn’t take that next step anyway. Feels like Ekholm and Coffey have been the ones to push him over the top.
Not a Holland fan. I wish him well and enjoy a long retirement or cushy gig as an advisor.
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On Bouch. I think elite players always find a way. You can't teach a player to be smart and be able to put the pieces together and keep adding new things to their game. They will always find a way themselves and seek out the help they need to add elements. Think the Oilers media and many fans natural instinct to crap on Bouch early in his career, like many other offensive D before him, is what leads people to always need to give everyone but Bouch credit for his own development.
What we really needed with Bouch is a GM and pro scouting/evaluation staff that knew what we had in him years ago. We totally misevaluated, and will pay heavily for it.
Coffey definitely gave our D confidence. Knob too, because they all got to escape whatever ridiculous thing Woody was trying to make the team do, and giving players video montages of all their mistakes trying to play a system that set them up to fail. In the end though, the same kinds of defensive mishaps kept happening from the same people. The overall team game was better to compensate for it, but key mistakes burned us here and there, extended the 2nd round, helped put us down 0-3 in the finals.
Am I off-topic enough from Holland talk? :) Generally trying to say we still need better D. Holland never fixed it. Jacksons coach choice worked around it as well as anyone could have dreamed, but it still wasn't enough. The new GM still has to do the job that was never done. He's lucky he has Chiarelli's pick of an elite D to start with though. And hopefully Nashville's cap dump that was at the top of the TSN D-men available board, that Nashville was happy to give away for a 1st and Barrie, has many years left to play at a high level too.
[Updated on: Thu, 27 June 2024 23:04]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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