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Re: Holland confirmed gone [message #837142 is a reply to message #837127 ]	Thu, 27 June 2024 14:04

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:22

Adam wrote on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:04

Hooray! The old guy is gone.

Now, who's up?

I like how it's worded like the Oilers were waiting for Holland to tell them he is no longer interested in continuing here.

I think Holland's camp was the first to break the news to media guys because almost all the initial news read this way. Jackson's press release certainly puts a bit of a different spin on it...it's a "mutual decision" to disengage. It does not sound like the team was interested in having him back in that role, which I think is a credit to Jackson. Wrong man for that role.

As for "special advisor" positions, I don't think they work well, for the same reason that all Lowe's goofy post-GM totally-non-hockey-ops-related-but-great-sounding-board positions didn't work. It's tough to see someone doing your old job and not want to interfere, especially at the point where they start doing things differently.

To use an example from history, William Howard Taft was the hand-picked successor to Theodore Roosevelt to be President of the US. Comfortable with Taft taking over and pushing forward his priorities, Roosevelt retired and supported him in the 1908 Election which Taft won in a landslide. But despite being the protege of Roosevelt, Taft wasn't the same person and didn't have all the same views and once he became President, he looked to put his own stamp on the office. He was not an incompetent President, but he and Roosevelt did not see eye to eye which led to such a high level of conflict that Roosevelt ran as a third party (awesomely for the Bull Moose Party) in the 2012 election, splitting the Republican vote (TR is by far the most successful third party candidate in US history with over 28% of the popular vote, and way more electoral college votes than Taft, throwing the election over to the Democratic Nominee Woodrow Wilson.

Lowe, similarly could not stay uninvolved with various administrations, and in his role he had the owners ears, so ultimately he steered the ship. Holland might not have the same sway, but it's still a recipe for conflict if he stays and chafes as the next occupant of his office does things differently (and god, they better do things differently, because if we just keep trying to run this team like it's 1998, we're never going to succeed).

Holland's deal ending is a blessing, and the Oilers should be thrilled to see him move off in to the sunset. Personally, I REALLY REALLY hope that someone else signs him. It is an absolute gift if there's a GM out there for a rival team who doesn't believe in trying to win trades, who isn't willing to use cap avoidance of any sort, and who has zero urgency to make his team better.

Of course, on the other hand, we are losing out on a lot of rambling anecdotes about the Red Wings from 25 years ago and I am sure he probably knows a lot of people or something too.

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Holland confirmed gone	By: Adam on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:04
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:22
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Adam on Thu, 27 June 2024 14:04
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:24
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:30
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Mike on Thu, 27 June 2024 11:15
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 27 June 2024 12:31
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Adam on Thu, 27 June 2024 14:49
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 27 June 2024 15:04
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Mike on Thu, 27 June 2024 15:30
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 27 June 2024 15:48
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 27 June 2024 18:39
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: PlusOne on Thu, 27 June 2024 18:48
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 27 June 2024 22:31
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: HamBlaster on Thu, 27 June 2024 21:39
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 27 June 2024 22:40
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 June 2024 23:02
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Rocksteady on Fri, 28 June 2024 08:59
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: inverno76 on Fri, 28 June 2024 09:23
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Adam on Fri, 28 June 2024 16:56
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: nullterm on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:39
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 June 2024 10:50
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Mike on Thu, 27 June 2024 11:11
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Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 27 June 2024 13:12
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 27 June 2024 13:35
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 June 2024 13:36
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 27 June 2024 13:58
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Suomalainen on Thu, 27 June 2024 19:56
Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 27 June 2024 20:11
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Re: Holland confirmed gone	By: Kr55 on Fri, 28 June 2024 14:56

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