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Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request [message #836435 is a reply to message #836431 ]	Tue, 18 June 2024 09:33

Adam
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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 18 June 2024 09:00

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:47

Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:21

I can’t do OilersNation for the sole reason of not wanting to support anything Jason Gregor has a hand in. And yes, that includes DFO.

Your choice. I don't agree with everything Gregor says but he does get access to players that as a fan, I would never get so its a way to get information and perspective from players which I think is important.

There are people in here I don't particular care for in here but you have to take the good with the bad if you don't want to miss out on potentially good information.

Jason Gregor gets access because he's a suck up to the Oilers organization. Carries water like nobody's business. And what makes it worse with Gregor that some of the others is that he likes to pretend that he doesn't and gets mortally offended by the suggestion that he does.

And despite all that access, it's pretty meagre information he (or most of the other meat) gets, because they're petrified to ask any hard questions.

How do you know he gets mortally offended? Do you have proof?
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I used to listen to Gregor but at some point I think I had my fill and stopped. I think he saw Stauffer’s career path and decided to emulate that. Ironically after Dan Tencer left the Oilers I found him to be less insufferable on twitter. I think Gregor and him have swapped objective/pander roles in some weird cosmic Oilers dance.

I will listen to the DFO because I like Frank, but I do not have much time for Gregor's takes. Especially his defiance on ref's using game management. I texted in to the show one day when when he was on his soap box and still working for 1260, and he wanted me to call in, but I knew I would sound like a bumbling idiot so I declined. I do not respond well to fast paced conversations.

My point was coming from my experience in reffing games, the way Hockey Sask gives feedback and from a few WHL linesmen that I know. The instructions given do not say to manage the game, but in the same breath you are told to be aware of the score, lopsided penalties to one team and not every penalty needs to be a penalty. Gregor dismissed everything I said and talked down to me (via text, so it I will admit that it was my interpretation). Plus he defends Mark Spector to no end.

I've had a few exchanges with Gregor over the years, some by email, some by twitter - most recently regarding his praise of Holland before this series. He's not very good at debate. He has a tendency to just repeat some line that he's said in his most recent column, and then to try to act dismissive and then, presented with facts, going silent. If on twitter, usually some twitter troll will then jump to his defence with some inane argument that shows zero understanding or reading comprehension.

I do find that the best way to make certain he responds on twitter is to obliquely suggest he's a bootlicker or carries water for the team. Despite the fact he's become more and more cravenly bound to the team management, he just despises the idea of admitting that to his audience.

The Edmonton sports media is just full of old guys who got lucky enough to land their dream job 20-50 years ago, and are so worried that that gravy train is coming to a stop any day that they're willing to do anything to keep from landing on the outs with the team.

I mean, it was almost all over for Gregor a couple years ago when TSN pulled the plug on radio, so he may feel like he was THIS close to having to go get a real job at ~50 years old. Had to be terrifying. Most of these guys have seen a lot of colleagues laid off over the years, and because of the state of that industry, no young guys can really afford to be in the business. Look at Jonathan Willis, who just couldn't afford to be in media, despite being better than almost all the other options in Edmonton.

I'm suddenly sounding sympathetic to the Edmonton media, but I do think all the above means that the survivors are often not the people who would have ideally still been around because the secret to surviving in this market hasn't been about being a good writer, or insightful or being able to comprehend and tell the game...it's more just a mix of clickbait and sycophantism, which I believe may be the actual parents of Mark Spector!

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Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: lowebudget on Wed, 12 June 2024 20:43
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: inverno76 on Wed, 12 June 2024 23:15
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Kr55 on Wed, 12 June 2024 23:25
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: inverno76 on Thu, 13 June 2024 09:33
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Kr55 on Thu, 13 June 2024 10:55
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 13 June 2024 12:52
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 13 June 2024 12:56
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Kr55 on Thu, 13 June 2024 13:09
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 13 June 2024 13:31
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: inverno76 on Thu, 13 June 2024 13:54
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 13 June 2024 14:23
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: inverno76 on Thu, 13 June 2024 14:47
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:18
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:21
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 13 June 2024 15:47
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Adam on Thu, 13 June 2024 22:15
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Mike on Fri, 14 June 2024 09:11
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: nullterm on Mon, 17 June 2024 23:23
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: inverno76 on Tue, 18 June 2024 09:00
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Adam on Tue, 18 June 2024 09:33
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: benv on Thu, 13 June 2024 14:16
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Rocksteady on Wed, 19 June 2024 10:56
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 19 June 2024 16:04
Re: Patrick Laine Trade Request	By: Kr55 on Wed, 19 June 2024 16:24

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