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Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4) [message #833904 is a reply to message #833898 ]	Tue, 14 May 2024 19:03

Mike
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Registered: August 2005
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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 19:50

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:22

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 15:55

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:47

No matter what happens with Pickard or our goaltending in general, hope people know who the real culprit is in forcing Knob to make this decision.

Holland left us with the goalie that melted down last playoffs, a $5M goalie that melted down 2 years in a row plus struggled to find any footing in the AHL this year, and Calvin Pickard.

I think almost everyone in this forum foresaw a strong possibility that what has happened in these playoffs now would happen. Holland chose to just sit back and hope things would just work out for him in his last year of his $25,000,000 contract. In this season the whole org knew is crucial for the future of Drai and McDavid here. Just hopes the prayers from our lazy GM.

Who's the goalie the Oilers should have brought in? This isn't me sticking up for Old man Holland, I just see the same thing. So let's see a name.

As an example, I can't remember every trade that happened this year, but the only goaltender I can recall moving was Allen and Kahkonen. Do you think the Oilers should have out bid the Devils for Allen?

I am not looking for doubling down on Holland sucks. I am completely aware of your opinion on the guy and his short comings. I deal in solutions. So who's the goalie the Oilers should have got?

Let's keep in mind:
- Flames ownership stopped a trade of Markstrom because they wanted to keep him to stay in the hunt. So he's off the table.
- Preds weren't trading Saros because he got them to the playoffs.
- Fleury (who I never wanted, he's old and not good) stated he wasn't waiving his NMC.
- Mrazek got resigned.

Allen and Kahkonen and one of the guys from Buffalo and you give Oliver a look and you bring Campbell back up later in the year and you get someone else in the minors just in case. Remember, when Adin Hill won a Cup he was Vegas' 5th goalie that year. That doesn't include Lehner who is off on his snake farm, Fluery who they dumped, or Grubbauer who they let go.

When you're trying to win a Stanley cup you can't leave yourself without an answer in net.

I don't even mind that Pickard is one of the potential answers, he's in the Allen, Kahkonen, random Buffalo guy zone. He just can't be the second goalie and the goalie of last resort. The fact that Oliver isn't up here is outrageous.

I agree, you need goaltending options.

Maybe you disagree with me but I don't think Allen or Kahkonen are better than the 2 guys the Oilers have now. Just my personal opinion. I am basing that opinion on the numbers they put up and the results they produced for their teams. Maybe if they came to the Oilers, they could have played above what they have shown over the years but I have no way of knowing that.

Buffalo guys, who? Luukkonen is young, inexperienced but looks like he will be their guy. The other guy listed on their roster right now is Comrie. I don't know much about him but I looked at his numbers and they aren't very good. I think the other guy was Levi, he's 22, extremely inexperiences and his numbers were really bad in the NHL but they could get better, he's just super young.

So you wanted Comrie?

Funny, to me, that you claim numbers for not liking Allen or Kahkonen but you seem to have a total disregard for some of us using numbers to show Skinner being the worst performing post-season goalie in the salary cap era. Of which, he is, evidenced by numbers.

You’re also just putting words in other mouths, by “solutioning” to whom you deem was available.

RDO - what do you think of the decision to start Pickard?

Personally I think it’s the right call, regardless of outcome. If he does well, he goes again. He sucks, you go back to Skinner.

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Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: OilFans on Tue, 14 May 2024 02:00
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:03
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:40
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:27
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:44
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:58
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 08:59
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 09:26
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Mike on Tue, 14 May 2024 09:30
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:24
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: JPro on Tue, 14 May 2024 09:24
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Adam on Tue, 14 May 2024 09:27
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 10:52
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: MJ on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:02
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:13
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:15
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:33
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: g2k on Tue, 14 May 2024 12:45
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Adam on Tue, 14 May 2024 17:18
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:14
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:29
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: inverno76 on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:42
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:51
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: kungpaobenji27 on Tue, 14 May 2024 11:47
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Tue, 14 May 2024 12:23
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 12:45
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 13:01
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 13:08
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 13:17
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Jay on Tue, 14 May 2024 13:22
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Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: halfafrog on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:45
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:46
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Adam on Tue, 14 May 2024 17:16
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:48
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 14:47
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 15:55
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:03
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:12
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:25
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:33
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Adam on Tue, 14 May 2024 17:39
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 19:24
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:15
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:22
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:50
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Mike on Tue, 14 May 2024 19:03
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Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: NetBOG on Tue, 14 May 2024 15:54
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 May 2024 16:05
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Adam on Tue, 14 May 2024 17:47
Re: Pregame: Vancouver @ Edmonton (Game #4)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 14 May 2024 19:08

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