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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 13 May 2024 16:25

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 13 May 2024 17:09

Organizational failure when Jesper Wallstedt fell to them and they decided to trade that pick for Xavier Bourgault, who will never be an NHL regular.

Yes. I said it. XB will never be a regular NHLer. To me, that move was worse than the Griffin trade, the Eberle tree, the Lucic signing. Just. Horrid.


We doubled up on failure that draft. Coffey was hounding the org to pick Johnston who he mentored from a young age, Staios was pushing for Wyatt Johnston too. Wright decided that his genius was too great and took Bourgault.

$25M for a GM whose entire claim to fame was amazing drafting/developing and patiently waiting for picks to emerge as stars (achieving over ripened status). I don't think Holland will have drafted a single top end player for us in his 5 years.



Yeah, if what is rumoured is true (Coffee/Staios inside OHL info, pushing for WJ) that was a big fkup by Wright (probably why he got the punt).. The Q is usually an enigma.. guys can light it up there (which XB did that year.. all the way to the Memorial Cup) .. and be either NHL regulars.. or totally bomb out.. IMHO OHL is usually the safer league to judge junior age performance by..

Also the points alone should have swayed their minds..

Bourgault last season in Q
2021-22 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 43 36 39 75

Johnston
2021-22 Windsor Spitfires OHL 68 46 78 124

WJ had higher PPG in a more competitive league.

Plus.. Johnston is listed a 6-2 185 lbs.. XB 6-0 (I doubt it) and 175l bs.

I agree.. forget Wallstedt.. Johnston was the huge FKUP!



That being said.. spending a 1st on a goalie is rare for most teams.. high risk.. not a sure thing even for the highest rated..

eg. Sebastian Cossa (15th overall)

Last two years in AHL he's rockin' 0.913 and 0.913

.. and for comparison Rodrigue (2nd round, #62) is 0.913 and 0.916 last two years

Wallstedt? He's 0.908 and 0.910

They are all seem to be doing similar ..


IMHO Goalies are voodoo in general.. especially draft wise..

What the Oilers did with getting NCAA guys like Fanti, and CIU Connor Ungar are smart moves.. need to get the guys that develop later.. which goalies tend to do.. for free.. wouldn't be a bad idea getting some Latvian, European goalie scouts on the payroll!






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