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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 10 May 2024 14:33

inverno76 wrote on Fri, 10 May 2024 14:18

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 10 May 2024 14:05

Adam wrote on Fri, 10 May 2024 12:15

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 10 May 2024 09:41

If Leon isn't 100%, this is a game the Oilers really need Nuge to step up.

Longest serving Oiler. Says he really wants to win. Just like last playoff, he hasn't been bad. He's been OK. Nuge being Nuge, that whole narrative. Last year he had 1 goal, 11 pts in 12 games. This playoff, 1 goal, 8 pts in 6 games. But he's never had a playoff where he elevated and played great. Hyman is having a fantastic playoff. He's clearly elevated his play. Teams that win have guys who elevate their games in the playoffs. Nuge badly needs to.


Ha ha ha...are you suggesting that a point a game pace or better isn't that good?



I try not to respond to many of your posts anymore but I will for this.

He scored 1 goal, 11 pts in 12 games last year. 9 PP assists. Nuge plays on the #1 PP unit that usually plays around 1:40 of every PP give or take 10 seconds. Sometimes the whole 2 mins. He plays in the Oilers top 6 with typically one of McD or Leon as his center. A lot of his PP points end up being second assists. Not discrediting them but that is what happens on a lot of occasions. This playoff in 6 games, he had 1 goal, 8 pts. 5 of which are on the PP.

Now I am sure you will tell me how wrong I am and how I should think, but in my opinion, when you get as much PP time as Nuge gets and you play wing with one of McD or Leon as much as he does, you should score more than 1 goal. I also think that if it was any other forward, if that forward only scored 1 goal getting as much icetime, PP time and time with McD or Leon as Nuge gets, a lot of fans would be calling for that player to be taken off the top line because he wasn't scoring enough goals. But because it's Nuge, it's OK and it's Nuge being Nuge.

As I said and I will say it AGAIN, I don't think he's playing bad, he does things that help the team but like I said a couple of times, and I will say it AGAIN, to go far in the playoffs teams need other players other than their main star to step up. I do not think scoring 1 goal in the playoffs is stepping up.



Are we over-crediting Nugent-Hopkins, or are you not giving him enough credit. If we are going to count 97 and 29's PP presence and points then we need to do the same for Nuge. There is a reason why the power play is an all-time elite UNIT.

McDavid has only one goal too, but the team is scoring and at the end of the day if the goals are coming far more often with the players in question on the ice, then they are playing at a high level of excellence.

Now if Nugent-Hopkins was not producing above his regular season production I would likely be swayed by your argument.

If this team needs to get over the hump, the Ceci/Nurse duo needs to get's pucks out of our end more efficiently. They got caved last game and I am being polite (on for 4 goals against at 5v5). The team just needs them to be serviceable . Elite would be wonderful, but serviceable is the ask. Nurse has been great on the PK where he keeps his play nice and simple.


Once again .... Nuge needs to shoot more and I don't care if he leads the league in secondary assists, or the third assist that does not count in the record books, He is contributing to goals, and goal scoring has not been our issue.

If Foegele was in Nuge's spot and he had 2 goals in 18 games, which is what Nuge has, and Foegele got all that top 6 time with McD or Leon and he got all that PP time. Would you be happy with the goal production or would you be expecting him to score more that 2 goals in 18 games?


What if I was in Nuge's spot and scored only 2 goals in 18 games would be happy with my performance regardless of the MUST I be bringing? What if it was Yakupov!? WHAT IF IT WAS JESSE PULJUJARVI!!!!

As Inverno has said and others agreed with/alluded on, what the Nuge does extremely well is the stuff that goes unnoticed. THAT intangible is the stuff that keeps in him the roles of which he is deployed.



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