 RDOilerfan
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Registered: January 2016
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 26 April 2024 13:03 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 26 April 2024 10:31 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 14:20 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 16:50 |
| Mike wrote on Thu, 25 April 2024 12:45 |
Went to check for fun - Skinner is statistically the worst playoff goalie ever in the cap era.
Of the 69 goalies that have played as much or more than him (14GP) since 2006, he ranks dead last in save % and GAA.
Skinner: .879, 3.81
Lehtonen: .887, 3.30
Let's hope he moves up that list quickly.
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You really don't like Skinner do you?
He's got 14 career starts. That's an extremely small sample size and that include a bunch of goals going off guys skates and in which I am guessing you blame him for too?
By the way, Hellebuyck who might win the vezina this year is .870 and 5.04 after 2 games.
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And Helleybuyck is .914 and 2.70 for his career in the playoffs. If you don’t see the difference you’re being disingenuous at best.
Don’t like Skinner? I was pumping his tires 2 years ago before anyone else when we were still trotting out Koskinen and Grandpa Smith. I liked him well enough, but I have concerns about his playoff play. Being worst ever in the cap era I think is cause for concern.
I hope he finds the level he had during those winning streaks - THAT guy I think can win us a Cup.
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I don't know how I am being disingenuous. You listed off his stats since 2006 stating Skinner is one of the worst playoff goalies in 18 years. Listing off Hellebuyck isn't me comparing the 2 goalie for goalie, it's stating the fact that really good goalies in short spurts, sometimes their stats don't look great for a variety of reasons. Doesn't mean they are bad goalies or incapable of performing.
The Kings got 3 fluke goals in game 1. If those don't happen, Skinners stats look a lot better. So in my opinion, jumping the gun and questioning the goalie after 2 games I think is an overreaction.
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The difference between Hellebuyck and Skinner to this point is that Hellebuyck's got a history of playing well in the post-season, and Skinner has not. If you look at his entire sample size there's more bad games than even average games right now, and that's not good enough.
Yes, he's had some bad bounces in the first couple of games, but good goalies come up with hard saves a lot of the time. At BARE MINIMUM, to be successful we need Skinner to be above .900 and right now he's not even close. On Wednesday, the Kings had three goals on their first 7 shots. While there were some high skill plays there and a little bit of puck luck, ideally, you'd like your goalie to have one or two of those. And if he does, that's the game - we win and we're up 2-0.
It's early. We shouldn't panic. But we also shouldn't put our head in the sand either and pretend that we didn't take a massive stupid risk by not bolstering the goaltending position this year.
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I'm not going to respond after this because I see it as a waste of my time. Probably at least half the league has question marks in goal. So anytime anyone complains about the Oilers "not bolstering their goaltending" I start to question them if they are saying anything logical or just complaining to complain because I believe there are certain fans in this market that prefer just to complain about something. Probably PTSD from the past. There wasn't a ton of goalies available. Some of the pending UFA's got resigned by their teams. Others weren't even upgrades on what the Oilers had. Did I want Allen who in my opinion is not an upgrade on Skinner, debatable if he is better than Pickard and has another year on his contract. Hell freaking no!! I think spending assets on a goalie who isn't any better just swap out name bars to make some fans feel better would have been stupid.
Plus most of the evidence people use about Skinner are based on the 12 games he played last year as a rookie goalie. Was he great? No, was he awful? No. Generally, rookies in their first playoffs don't play their best hockey, it's even way more likely that a rookie goalie in his first playoff does well. I would think fans should probably give Skinner more than 2 games this year to decide if he can do it or not.
[Updated on: Fri, 26 April 2024 13:18]
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