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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69) [message #831310 is a reply to message #831309 ]	Mon, 25 March 2024 15:45

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 25 March 2024 11:18

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 March 2024 11:02

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 25 March 2024 10:51

The Desharnais call on Stutzle for interference, I am sorry but if that's a penalty, then the NHL needs to go to non contact.

They are both skating to get the puck. Stutzel along the boards, Vinnie skating towards him. Both make contact with the puck. The direction Vinnie is coming at to get to the puck, unless he slams on the brakes or jumps the opposite direction, his skating momentum will cause him to make contact with the player. There is no avoiding it. It's not from behind, it's not high, he didn't slash him or grab him, it's not even a hard hit, it's a rub out that happens probably 50 times a game when 2 guys are skating towards a puck and one is along the boards. It didn't even knock him down. Did it stop him from going forward, sure but again, to avoid that, Vinnie either can't go after the puck at all or slam on the brakes as soon as the puck gets hit.

If they are going to call that, then what about the slash to the back of the leg that Stutzel gave? Slashing at the back of a guys leg is not a hockey play. That's illegal according to the rules.

Stutzle is a generational penalty drawer, probably only rivalled by Pettersson. Some of these players just have the uncanny ability to make any contact with them look like it should be called a penalty on the other team.

Not sure what you can do about it, the refs obviously never learn.

When I think of interference, I think of a play where the puck gets dumped in by a player, the player attempts to skate after it, the puck is no where in sight and the defender gets in his way or hits him. That's interference. The point of a penalty is the penalize a player that is doing something against the rules to try and hurt a player or gain an advantage illegally.

In the rules you are allowed to hit the opposing player to help separate the man from the puck. The puck is supposed to be with the player you hit when the hit occurs. You are typically allowed a minor grace period between when the puck is with the player and when it is gone to finish your check. In the replay. the puck was with the player Vinnie hit when he went to engage the player. As he was finishing the check he started when the puck was on Stutzel's stick, the puck left Stutzel's stick. Vinnie was already committed to the hit when the puck left Stutzel's stick and the time between when the hit occurred and when the puck was gone was at the most 1 second.

So when I see penalties like that, I would love to know what the ref felt Vinnie should do differently because I see that as a play where if Vinnie is playing how the rules are called in the book with contact, and the NHL is a contact league, any sort of contact was completely unavoidable. So if it's unavoidable and you are playing like the rules state, it's not a penalty. It's soooo frustrating because I would bet that if a person watched that game over and just focused on similar plays, you would see that exact thing happen dozens of times with no penalty called.

I thought that at the point where Desharnais makes contact, there is a significant gap between Stutzle and the puck, so it doesn't look like he's separating the player from the puck, rather it looks like he's preventing a player from getting to the puck. I think that there was enough there to call that obstruction interference.

That said, I agree, Stutzle slashes Desharnais with no call, and in the last two games alone there's been at least half a dozen more egregious fouls against the Oilers that were not called. As for the Ekholm call, I don't think he held him at all, he just leaned in to him. I have no idea what the referees saw there, but it was super soft.

Penalty kill and goalie just have to be better though. You can't expect no calls against, and we shouldn't lose a game we dominate that thoroughly simply because we got a couple weak penalty calls.

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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Rowan Oil Fielding on Sun, 24 March 2024 19:00
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: g2k on Sun, 24 March 2024 19:14
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Adam on Mon, 25 March 2024 10:29
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: g2k on Sun, 24 March 2024 19:17
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Steve on Sun, 24 March 2024 19:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Kr55 on Sun, 24 March 2024 20:52
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 25 March 2024 00:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 25 March 2024 00:40
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Mon, 25 March 2024 05:30
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Adam on Mon, 25 March 2024 10:30
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 March 2024 10:51
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 25 March 2024 11:02
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 March 2024 11:18
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Adam on Mon, 25 March 2024 15:45
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Ottawa (Game #69)	By: Skookum Jim on Tue, 26 March 2024 15:57

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