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inverno76 wrote on Tue, 12 March 2024 09:35

The plan has to be win a Cup soon and often, but the oldest team in the league is a bit misleading. The core is still in it's prime. Aside from Hyman (32) Kane (33) and Ekholm (34), it is Henrique (34), Gagner (35), Ryan (38) and Perry (39) who are all on expiring contracts that drive the average up.

**I hope moving Kane in the offseason is a plan that is on the table. I love what he can bring at times, but it is far too inconsistent for his price point and he is a rapidly depreciating asset.

I've seen the narrative of Kane makes too much money by others before. You have a guy barely making above 5 mill who all he does is put up 20+ goal seasons almost exclusively 5 on 5 because he gets squat PP time on the Oilers. He's got 21 this year and will probably be around 25 by the time the season is done. He will hit, fight and intimidate if you need him too. He can kill penalties if you need him too. Yet in comparison, Oilers fan fav Eberle, just signed an extension for 4.75 mill. He won't score 20 this year, he's got 14 right now so he probably ends up in the high teens by seasons end. He doesn't kill penalties, nor does he bring the physical things Kane does and he doesn't skate as well.

I'm trying to understand what Kane should be making. Kane will make 375 more than Eberle. If the rough market says a 30+ year old guy who can score you 20 goals is worth around 4.75 mill. If a player scores more than Eberle and does more things then Eberle, should he not make a tiny bit more? Or do you think the Eberle contract is an overpay as well?


I more concerned about the rumblings that Kane is no longer a happy camper. When he scores 35 he's out earning his contract and the problematic on-ice attitude that has shown up over his career is much easier to deal with.

Also Kane only get's a small amount of PK time. Resume filler .... And I would not want Eberle at 4.75M to take Kane's 2/3 line role unless it was on an expiring deal. I believe Kane does bring more to the table than Eberle, but if possible I would not have either in the lineup for multiple years moving forward.



Solve the mystery of when Kane got another long term deal using this 1 clue

https://i.ibb.co/dKnkMcN/Evander-Kane.jpg



I said before players aren't the best judges of who to add/remove from the roster to create a winning team. I would give players some credit in knowing who is clearly slacking off on the team and not engaged fully. He still has little bursts of effort here and there, but I think the stats and eye test show a player that is back to being more interested in his off-ice activities again now that he scored another big payday. Lucky he has enough talent to get by still, but obviously could be so much better.

Maybe pride kicks in for playoffs, but it's still a big risk to commit to these kinds of personalities. Some players are just not cut out for the long term deals. They need the money motivator to keep their butts in gear every season. Kassian was the same for us before Kane.



Well, to be fair - in Kane's case there is the matter of a very serious, potentially life threatening injury (at the occurrence at least) followed by a long, not necessarily linear recovery and strength progression. That also coincides with that dip in the graphic. Not to say there are no issues, but given what occurred, I think he has done reasonably well.



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