 RDOilerfan
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| smyth260 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2023 10:51 |
He’s an NHL goalie, he came for free. Skinner has had a bad season at .885. Do you think he’s done? Or are you looking at a larger body of work to evaluate him?
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Skinner is a second year NHL goalie. He's a young, up and coming goalie with not a ton of experience. It's unfortunately pretty common for second year players to take a small step back. The old "sophomore jinx". Happens year after year to many, many players all over the NHL. On top of it, the Oilers do not have an elite defense and are not known for being a team that is great defensively. They improved a ton under Knoblaugh but to start the season, the whole team was brutal defensively.
Raanta does not have that problem. He's a 34 yr old goalie. He's been around the NHL for 11 yrs. He has 267 starts. Like I said, the team in front of him typically plays a good defensive structure. The defense in front of him has guys who flirt with Norris trophy's. Slavin is typically in the top 5-10 every year for the Norris and if he scored more points, he'd probably have won at least one by now. They have other guys that are very good NHL dmen, they probably have one of the better top 4 defenses in the NHL. When you are rocking a .854 behind a team that plays that well defensively and one of the better defenses in the NHL, in my opinion, that is red flag city.
Maybe he can bounce back but the Oilers, while playing way better defensively lately, I do not think they will EVER be a top end defensive team. They aren't constructed to be that. I also do not think their defense will EVER be considered a top end defense like Carolina's. So you are asking a goalie who's struggling playing behind a strong defensive team with a strong defense, to find his game with the Oilers. I think that's a tall ask. The Oilers also do not have the available cap space to be taking flyers on goalies. If he was making league min and his full salary could be buried, different story. If he doesn't do well and they have to bury his contract, it counts for 350K cap space which is something they don't have to waste.
There is no chance a team is trading you a legit good starter, the guy you could get are guys who could play in tandem with Skinner and are on teams who are probably not great but are still putting up OK numbers. A few guys as examples:
- Blackwood. I don't think he's a starter but a guy that could split time. Was once highly touted. Still young. On the Sharks this year who are a bad team with not much on defense. In 21 games, 3.74 GA, .897. He's facing a ton of shots with not a lot of help and almost .900. On a better team, he could easily be better
- Reimer - 3rd goalie on the Wings. Extremely consistent around .910. Last year on the Sharks who were a very bad team. 43 GP. 3.48, .890. He goes to the Wings who are mediocre but better than the Sharks. In 8 games, 2.58, .911. SO right back up to his normal numbers as soon as he's on a team that isn't horrible.
- Rumors flying around Vejmelka. Another guy who's been on a below average team but able to put up around .900. The last 2 seasons, played 50 or more games. Right at .900 or a point or 2 below behind a not very good Yotes team. This season in 13 games. .899 again behind a Yotes team that isn't great. If you look at their defense, it's not very good.
I'd be targeting those 3. Blackwood and Vejmelka have another year at 2.35 and 2.75 respectively, Reimber 1.5 and is a UFA.
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