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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 15:40

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 14:57

CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 07 November 2023 14:40

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-bouchard-reflect s-on-areas-for-improvement-one-day-after-benching/

Unless you're now arguing everything resets for Bouchard every season. Then there's no chance benching will work. My secondary point in all of this is your ideas of player punishment and motivation are hilariously obsolete. I'd say I want them to bench Bouchard just so you realize that does nothing to change a player, but I know you'd never notice the lesson.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But if there is no consequences then don't expect anything to change. I know what you will say next. It's someone else's fault.

The consequence is in the back of the net. The consequence got sent down to the minors today. Do you really believe Bouchard didn't realize he screwed up before the puck went in on that play? Other than satiating impotent rage, what do you expect to accomplish with benching Bouchard for 5 minutes like you suggested? "I really want to loaf back up the ice, but Woodcroft benched me for a shift three days before he got fired so I better hustle". Might as well throw the equipment in the snow and bag skate them. Your thoughts on motivation and punishment are hilariously antiquated. Straight from the 70s. The exact kind of thinking that let Lowe sewer the team for a quarter century.

What the Oilers need to do is open up opportunities to players who have earned them. If you want to incentivize defensive, give some cherry powerplay time to Kulak when he makes 4 good defensive reads against San Jose and let everyone know that's why. Believing the path to improvement is through managing with fear is laughable.

Like I said, I hope they bench him. Hell get his comeuppance for not trying hard enough. It won't change anything, but you'll feel better and that's what really matters.

Honestly. I am not sure Bouchard cares. I think he sees his job as scoring points and that's it. If you score lots of points, you get paid. On the Oilers, even when they are playing like crap, he will still score points and based on how Woody coaches and what he has said, Bouch will get his looks no matter how bad he is because they want goals. So he will rack up points on the Oilers and get a fat contract either from the Oilers or from someone else. He knows it. Defending isn't fun, it's hard work. But if you are more in it to get paid, points gets you money. Winning is what you need if you aren't a big point producer. So what's the incentive for him to defend which isn't very much fun when he can do what he likes and still get paid?

Mistakes happen. It's part of hockey. But when you make the same mistake again and again that tells me either you are stupid and don't realize what you are doing or you don't give a crap. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's not stupid. So it comes down to not caring to change. This is just my opinion but I don't think winning is a big deal to him. He's a pro so of course he wants to win to a degree but like I said above, it doesn't trump being paid a lot.

In my opinion, if he truly wanted to win, you'd see change in his game by now. I am sure he has been shown again and again the mistakes he makes and what he needs to do to fix it. Yet game after game, he makes the same mistake. His mistake last night on the 4th goal. That's a needless, lazy defensively wise mistake that is solely for trying to score. It was an extremely high risk, very low chance of succeeding play that if it works, there are 3 Canucks on the wrong side of the puck and Bouchard can walk in and probably score. There is nothing TEAM about that. It's a stupid, selfish play. Once the mistake happens. If he truly cared about winning, you'd see him busting his ass back trying to make up for it. It didn't happen. He makes the slow, lazy pinch. Then does a slow turn then starts to skate. He doesn't try to take the man with his body as he is going by, or lunge out to hook or trip a guy. He let's him easily go by him. Ekholm hustled back, Leon hustled back. Skinner shoots out the rebound past Leon and it's the 3rd Canuck coming in. Bouchard was the closest guy to Hoglander. If he's hustling back, he picks up that guy.



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