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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Minnesota (Game #6) [message #826247 is a reply to message #826245 ]	Wed, 25 October 2023 00:07

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g2k wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 22:56

K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 22:21

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 22:11

smyth260 wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 22:08

oiltec wrote on Tue, 24 October 2023 20:58

Where do you start, the Woodman, the defense, the bottom six? There are no easy answers, but one thing is sure this team is definitely heading in the wrong direction.

There are some easy answers.

Janmark and Kane are getting big lineup boosts pretty undeservedly. There are probably better players than Erne out there if we looked for it and demoted him. Maybe even internally.

On defense, I’d be taking a serious look if this system change is the cause of so many high danger chances.

Woody said last game the system has been solid. Just individual errors causing goals. Just an endless barrage of individual errors where the guys are all constantly straying from the perfect system, I guess? Getting Eakins vibes

I was gonna say, could the swarm be worse? Man defense was maybe good for 2 or 3 open looks a game, but I find myself yearning for that stalwart system. I dont think the guys look like they know what they're supposed to be doing out there, which is kinda dangerous if it's 'cup or bust'.

Also interesting was 3 too many men penalties, I dont think any were cheap.

Is this team a coach killer or are bad coaches killing this team?

Starting to think the later.

It’s like this team needs a short shelf life ass kicker to get them over the top.

Has to be a bit of both, and it really roots back to management and ownership.

This team is run like it's run by a fan. None of us knows what's happening behind the scenes, none of us really knows who made what happen off the ice. We only view results, hear cliches in interviews, discuss amongst ourselves ideas of what went right and wrong. There are people paid millions to make the right decisions to ensure this team is constantly improving and putting the best possible people in every position. What do they actually do though? They fall in love with the results in short timeframes and throw money at whoever looked pretty good while it was happening.

We all thought woodcroft and Manson implemented some new defensive scheme when they took over. Our analytics defensively popped up. Wow, we got coaches that could fix a huge issue this team has had for years. All downhill from there, to a new low honestly. I've never seen a teams defensive system be so obviously exploited like what Vegas did to us. Not a supposed "contender" at least. That was absolutely embarrassing, and we've somehow made it worse to start this year, only we're just kicking ourselves directly in the junk, no effort required by the opposition coaches/players. Did Woody/Manson actually do something amazing in 21/22? Or was it just a matter of effort by the players after Tippett was fired? Pay one of us $5M a year and give us access to the room every day and maybe we could figure it out.

That falling in love with short term results has landed us with lots of bad contracts too of course. Being mad about short term failures also leads to bad decisions too. Both of those fan-like mood swinging approaches are how we roll around here to build a team. Gut feel still rules.

There is really so much wrong with this team, it's hard to go through it all. Starts with Katz, trusting the OBC and Hockey Canada crew to know how to build a team. That's not over either, he hired Coffey to be his right hand man now, so it would not at all unexpected to see many years of bad decisions still to come. We know without a doubt now that Lowe, Tambo, MacT, Messier, Gretzky, Chia, Bobby and Holland were all miserable failures.

[Updated on: Wed, 25 October 2023 00:10]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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