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Re: Draisatl Extension [message #825599 is a reply to message #825598 ]	Thu, 28 September 2023 13:36

RDOilerfan
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Adam wrote on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:28

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:03

I do not have fallacies in here, it's a difference of opinion from yours. A false statement would be saying Adam Larsson plays for the Edmonton Oilers which he does not.

A fallacy would be you welcoming other opinions other than yours.

Fallacy - a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.

I think you're confusing that with just something that is wrong. Fallacy isn't the opposite of fact.

Fallacy #1: "Your opinion is that Vegas won based on nothing but "good management"."

You are telling CrusaderPi what his opinion is, and you're incorrect because he never said they didn't get any breaks or that no luck went in to it.

Fallacy #2: "So if Vegas and their "good management" because it's the same guys this year, if they don't win the cup again, what will be your excuse?"

This is suggesting that if they don't win the Cup this year, then the argument that they have better management is flawed. That's clearly not true because while they have better management than the Oilers, they're not the only team in the league with decent management. Winning is hard - but their management puts them in a better position to do it. CrusaderPi can still be right that they're better than Ken Holland and company, whether they repeat or not. I mean, I think you'd have a hard time getting almost anyone but the most Pollyanna of fans to suggest that Ken Holland is better than the Knights management (or the Lightning's, or the Bruins', or several other teams).

Those are just in your first couple sentences of one post. There's more throughout this entire thread, but I don't want to beat you up here for it too much because that's making this thread about you when the point should be whether the Oilers management is good enough to convince Leon Draisaitl that he should stay in Edmonton and they need to show a ton of improvement to get there. I mean, it's not very hard to imagine a scenario where the Oilers have a good season on the back of great performance by McDavid and Draisaitl and we get bounced early again due to crummy netminding. If that happens, that's not bad luck because it's a known flaw that we haven't addressed year after year.

Or if, hockey gods forbid, one of those guys gets injured and misses 3 months of action, it's not hard to imagine the team going in to a nose-dive without them and maybe even missing the playoffs because there's little depth behind them and because the GM is hesitant to re-spend their cap space if they're not ruled out for the entire year - another couple known flaws in the team that haven't been meaningfully addressed.

Thank you once again for telling how I need to think and why when I don't regurgitate your opinion and you opinon alone, it's wrong.

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Draisatl Extension	By: Rutuu on Thu, 21 September 2023 00:38
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: inverno76 on Mon, 25 September 2023 13:13
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:07
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: smyth260 on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:48
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:57
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 September 2023 16:00
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: smyth260 on Mon, 25 September 2023 16:08
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 27 September 2023 13:38
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: smyth260 on Wed, 27 September 2023 14:48
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 27 September 2023 20:44
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:57
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:57
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 25 September 2023 16:03
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 25 September 2023 16:14
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 10:09
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Kr55 on Thu, 28 September 2023 10:30
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 11:12
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Kr55 on Thu, 28 September 2023 11:37
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 03 October 2023 11:08
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Kr55 on Tue, 03 October 2023 11:24
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 28 September 2023 11:10
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 11:26
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Adam on Thu, 28 September 2023 12:45
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:03
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Adam on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:28
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:36
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 28 September 2023 13:58
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 28 September 2023 15:54
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: inverno76 on Mon, 02 October 2023 10:30
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Tue, 03 October 2023 09:24
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: inverno76 on Wed, 11 October 2023 09:16
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Kr55 on Wed, 11 October 2023 09:17
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 11 October 2023 09:24
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 25 September 2023 15:57
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: smyth260 on Mon, 25 September 2023 16:11
Re: Draisatl Extension	By: Kr55 on Thu, 28 September 2023 09:44

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