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 inverno76
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Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Adam wrote on Fri, 28 July 2023 12:07 |
OilersNation running with the Stauffer...umm...guarantee?
https://oilersnation.com/news/bob-stauffer-its-better-than-5 0-50-that-both-leon-draisaitl-and-connor-mcdavid-sign-long-t erm-here
It's interesting to see his math - which is just A) can the Oilers potentially afford higher salaries and B) can anyone else take both guys?
That, of course, fundamentally misses the point that if they don't believe that the Oilers have the management to build a winning team around them that is likely to be a bigger factor than the money. They're going to get paid whereever they go.
And the fact that they reach free agency at different times, and that the Oilers will have to stare down the barrel of losing them for nothing if they don't sign in the summer before their deal expires and there's a pretty good chance that they might end up playing for different teams for some of their career. Gretzky and Messier managed to live with not being in the same city. I'm sure that Draisaitl & McDavid could too...especially if it gave them a better shot at winning a Cup.
The problem to me is that they should feel robbed right now by the Oilers. Here's the aggregate scoring stats from the past five seasons:
https://oilersnation.com/news/bob-stauffer-its-better-than-5 0-50-that-both-leon-draisaitl-and-connor-mcdavid-sign-long-t erm-here?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbcl id=IwAR1OGfJxaR0ZVX4rKSqJYm-zwGy--ifG71iPu3B2hWn2D9LkTSocUcB Ju2A
McDavid - 360 GP, 594 pts
Draisaitl - 369 GP, 537 pts
MacKinnon - 335 GP, 456 pts
Panarin - 347 GP, 428 pts
Marner - 348 GP, 424 pts
Pastrnak - 338 GP, 414 pts
Matthews - 337 GP, 410 pts
Kane - 358 GP, 409 pts
Marchand - 345 GP, 403 pts
Huberdeau - 365 GP, 401 pts
They have been ridiculously dominant but the team hasn't been to the Finals, hasn't won a divisional title, have only made it past the second round once and only made it TO the second round twice.
Even if you look at playoff scoring over the same period, McDavid is the 5th highest scorer with 66 points in 36 games and Draisaitl's 9th with 61 in 36 games. No one else in the top 30 scorers have played less than 50 games. They've been sensational and the Oilers just continue to struggle to build a team around them.
It should be said, that's with both of them on very team-friendly deals too, and yet the Oilers constantly waste cap space with poor contract negotiations and bad decisions creating dead cap.
Ultimately, it is all going to come down to wins and losses the next couple years. The imaginary number of "greater than 50% chance" buys a little more hope for fans desperate to hear it, but if the Oilers don't win, then absolutely no one should expect them to stay. They've done everything in their power to compel the team forward, so if after over a decade the team hasn't been able to properly build around them? Then who could blame them if they decide to try somewhere else.
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I would not blame them if they went elsewhere, but a huge tell for the future will be next summer. If Draisaitl signs a 5-8 year extension then I am pretty confident we will get McDavid under contract and I would not be shocked to see their contracts with coinciding UFA dates.
Being top 1-5 team in the league in the regular season would probably give them some confidence that they have the pieces here to win. Bob does have a point though. These two are not taking a discount wherever they go, and I cannot think of too many contenders better than Edmonton who could even take one of them on without moving significant talent and salary out.
Time will tell, but as a fan I am not overly concerned. Like most Cup winners, it does not come easy and every team that wins it faces multiple bumps in the road prior to a championship. Once you enter the Cup contender phase, luck and health becomes almost as important as skill.
As fans I think we should take a moment to enjoy this time and not live in constant dread. The window is open, breath it in.
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