 Burgeoboy
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Registered: July 2006
Location: Burgeo, Newfoundland
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 14 July 2023 12:54 |
| Burgeoboy wrote on Fri, 14 July 2023 09:02 |
| Adam wrote on Thu, 13 July 2023 19:45 |
| Burgeoboy wrote on Thu, 13 July 2023 11:17 |
| Adam wrote on Tue, 04 July 2023 14:53 |
But the fact is, the cap isn't guaranteed to move upwards. The NHL has had a plateau in revenue, which is the big reason why the cap isn't changing. There's no guarantee that it goes up this coming season
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I don't like this deal at all, the dead cap next season is bad, but you are wrong about this part. The cap is going up next year and the reason it hasn't been going up, is not due to NHL revenue not raising.
The hasn't gone up because of covid. The player and Owners spilt revenue, during covid league revenue was down a lot, but the players refused to take a pay cut, so the past few years they be "paying back" the owners. That debit is now paid back, so the cap well go up to wear it should be based on current NHL revenue. So, unless your excepting the revenue to drop a lot, the cap is for sure going up next season.
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https://cleatshub.com/annual-nhl-revenue/
This doesn't have the most recent year's revenue, but definitely you're correct that the deep hole of 2020-21 was the biggest issue. Bettman was predicting $5.7B for last season.
That said, I think my point still holds. It might be likely that the cap goes up, but it's not at all a certainty, and I think managing your hockey team based on the cap always going up is a pretty foolish thing to do. Some forecasting is fine, but Holland's basically said that his whole plan for the Oilers hasn't come to fruition because the cap didn't go up. That's not great from the highest paid GM in the league, especially given that several other teams have found ways to get past that.
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I agree with your over premise, but feel you miss representing what actually happen (unless you think Holland should have foreseen a world wide pandemic). No one was assuming the cap would go up, everyone knew it would, it wasn't a projection, the league had signed a new TV deal, that was the reason everyone knew the cap would raise, then Covid happen.
Go look at Capfriendly, every team that as tried to compete the past few years all have cap issue do to this reason. There's a lot of reasons to hate on Holland, but not predicting Covid shouldn't be one of them and nor should expecting the cap to raise next year, when everyone knows it is going (outside of a major unforeseen event), we are basically getting the jump we should have gotten back then due to the TV deal.
I hate what Holland decided to with that cap space, 3.25m of dead cap space next year for 1 year of Connor Brown, basically puts us in a all or nothing year this season, it a big gamble, if we win the Cup, it be worth it, but outside of that, I see it as a bad move.
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The pandemic might not have been predictable but after the season stopped in March 2020 it was pretty easy to figure out there would be some cap implications. Going into the pandemic it was mostly ok to be tight to the cap and inflexible because more cap space was always coming. Mostly ok because I think building some wiggle room to adjust is always a smart idea. After the pandemic it was completely unacceptable to be banking on increases because we knew the money situation was going to be chaotic.
By the start of last season, autumn of 2022, Holland's mismanagement of the dollars was obvious and the pandemic could not be used as an excuse. We knew revenue had been down for two season and the players had made the decision they had made. Yet the Oilers went into the season 12 cents from the cap with a short roster. Anything signed after March 2020 should be questioned. And there are a lot of questionable signings since March 2020.
Yes, the cap should go up next year but what if it doesn't? What if the economy is a lot softer than the experts think and people just don't have enough disposable income to pay NHL prices in the big markets? Or maybe the sports media outlets, who keep firing people and reducing their services for some reason, can't make payments on rights contracts. There are realistic scenarios that exist when using 3 million of next year's cap this year is a bad idea.
At least they didn't buy out Yammo.
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How Holland managed the cap after 2020 is certainly questionable and I am not defending all of his moves, but you have to admit him and most GMs where in a though place and it been a big issue league wide. Trying to build a winning team in the flat cap area, was hard for all the top teams. Most, if not all spend to the cap and go in to the season limited in what moves they can make.
Vegas gave away Max Pacioretty for nothing, Tampa as let countless players walk, and overpaid for young cost control players (Hagal/Jeannot), how any pics/assets have Toronto burned trough to have salary retained on rental players, Colorado had to let good players walk, even teams that have not been good have had major cap issues, like Vancouver. The sharks can't trade a 100 point Dman and Matt Dumba can't get a deal in free agency, why are free agents taking 1 year deals? There's clearly cap issues league wide, not just in Edmonton. I am not saying 2 (or 32) wrongs make a right, what I am saying is, clearly the past few years have put a wrench into everyone plans, so I don't think it fair to single out Holland and act like we would have done better, he as actually feared better than most.
Although I don't like every move he has made and yeah I look forward to a change in GM, I think he as done a lot better than some here give him credit for, especially under the circumstances.
How I ended up defending Holland in thread about one of his deal I hate, I well never know....
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