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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 12 July 2023 14:43 |
| oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 12 July 2023 14:31 |
| smyth260 wrote on Wed, 12 July 2023 00:47 |
I agree. Given what the bigger names like Bertuzzi got, plus Tarasenkos troubles, I have a hard time believing that an injured Brown was receiving good offers. 4M is a lot for a middle six forward, it’s a lot for a recently injured forward, and it seems to be especially above market value in the 2023 offseason. A better bonus structure with some good targets for the team makes this more palatable. With a 10GP bonus, what are the odds that we see sub 30 point 4 million Connor Brown?
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The thing is though that this is a unique situation where we can defer a lot of his salary. We didn't have the space to sign any of those other guys. That said, $4M total with the only condition that he play in 10 games is pretty outrageous in it's own right, and coming off a major injury it should be half that. Brown's agent definitely used the Oilers cap issues to his fullest advantage.
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I think of it another way. If the Oilers signed whoever for 4 mill and that player played in the Oilers top 6 on right wing, scored over 20 goals scored over 40 pts and killed penalties, would I think it's a good signing? Yes I would.
Brown forechecks hard, he kills penalties well, he's scored 20 or more goals twice, one of those times he scored 21 goals in 56 games during the covid short year. That's a 30 goal pace. Another year he score 16 in 71, that's a 19 goal pace playing on an Ottawa team that didn't have a lot of help. He's played with and is friends with McD so I have no doubt in my mind McD will try to ensure he does well. So I think as long as he stays healthy, it's a pretty safe bet this will be a good signing.
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A few thoughts here:
First, and maybe foremost, "friends with McDavid" shouldn't be one of those attributes we're looking at and seeing as a reason for signing people. It's just not relevant, and when building a team, we should be only concerned with whether the player adds to the team. Connor can make friends with them after they get here if he doesn't have history with them, and honestly, most players are going to take his calls, so get him to make some new friends with top end talent and convince them to come in.
Secondly, if there were any reason to think hiring friends of McDavid would be a good idea, it would be because theoretically, they'll come play for less to hang out with their buddy and have a shot at winning a Cup. We haven't seen that with any of them though, and Brown is no different. He got at least full market value for himself here, considering he's coming off a season where he didn't even play for the vast majority of it. The Oilers should have had some leverage, but they tipped their hand early, making extremely clear where they were focusing all their free agent energy.
If there was another (admittedly weak) reason you would be looking at bringing in Friends O' Connor, it would be to try to convince McDavid that he should stay here past his current contract, but the way this one is set up, it actually makes it harder and less likely that we'll be able to keep Brown next year, as there's an excellent chance he won't be bonus eligible, and he'll already be eating up ~$3.25MM in cap space. If he has a great season, we may not be able to afford him and he can go and help scout out a new landing spot for his bestie in another center.
Thirdly, Yamamoto scored 41 points the year before last. His pace this year, if he'd been healthy, would have had him at 35. Puljujarvi scored at a 45 point pace the year before last. With both those guys, you have been very vocal that you don't think they were worth the $3.1MM we were paying to them. Now, consider, we are likely committing to Connor Brown $3.25MM of cap space to NOT play here the season after this - regardless of if he can "score 40+ points" this year. I always laugh at how much Edmonton fans will covet someone who can score 40 elsewhere, while finding those who score at that rate here to be complete disappointments.
This is a risky signing for Holland, because he's cap-strapped already, and this is almost certainly going to make our cap situation worse next year. If we win the Cup, then you can stomach it, but anything but? Then we have a real problem.
Here's hoping the old coot is still working and hasn't blasted off to the cabin already. I mean, it's July 12th so there's an excellent chance he's already turned off the lights at the offices here and is just sending the occasional email to Bouchard's agent right now. If we have to win this year, then he has a whole lot more work to do.
[Updated on: Thu, 13 July 2023 16:44]
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