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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 11:37 |
| NetBOG wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 11:21 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 11:19 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 10:29 |
I got to love it when I get into arguments about how the Oilers didn't get enough value for a player like Yamo, then the Wings take him all so they could get the rights to Kostin so they can overpay Kostin and buy him out. As much as I liked Kostin, he's a 4th liner right now. Maybe on the Wings he plays higher up but on the Oilers, he's in their bottom 6 and should be making maybe at most 1.25 mill.
Watch the Wings give him a 2 yr, 1.6 mill deal plus when you add on Yamo's buy out, he's not basically a 2 mill player.
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Two things:
1) You're still missing the point. The point is, trade players before their value is nothing, and don't actively contribute to reducing their value to nothing, which is what you do if you announce to the world that you pretty much need to make a move with that specific player.
2) You're right about Yzerman here. He has to have a sense as to what Kostin will cost to keep in North America, and he's just added a million dollars to the cost of getting him with this buyout. It's a stunning mistake.
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Or he values the player and has a boatload of cap space. Trust me, he knows more about this stuff than you do.
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If you have the cap space (not Cap Space like the Oilers) why buy out Yam? And why is he so worried about Klim when you could get him without the buy out tomorrow? I'm not sure the appeal to authority works with Yzerman on this move.
And if Yzerman values Klim so much, why not leverage that to getting something in return if you're Holland? Turns out Yammo did not have a zero value to the rest of the league. The Oilers worked their first round pick into less than zero.
Both teams did poorly here.
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If you're Yzerman and you're willing to invest $2MM+ in cap space for Klim Kostin, then A) you need a better analytics team and B) why not just offer a low draft pick to the Oilers for the player that they're struggling to sign. I'd posit that $300-500K of cap space in each of the next couple years is worth more than a 7th round pick and for the Oilers if they are losing him for nothing to the KHL, then they may as well take that long-shot pick.
It's a totally bizarre move, and shows a guy who's out-thinking himself at the helm of the Detroit Red Wings.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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