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 CrusaderPi
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Registered: December 2003
Location: Downtown Edmonton
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 09:08 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 08:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 30 June 2023 08:38 |
| CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 29 June 2023 15:59 |
Maybe it's just me but
Just giving away players when you only
Start with three draft picks in the first place seems
Unwise. It's amazing how the Oilers are always the ones whose assets
Cease to hold any value.
Kassian, Kostin, Puljujarvi, Bear, Jones, Yams, even Eberle weren't
Sold but given away instead. Classic OEG
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What always amazes me his how much Oilers fans seem to overvalue players. Look at the list of guys you listed.
Kassian - Would you give up anything to get a grossly overpaid 4th line with concussion issues?
JP - Would you give up anything to get JP who hasn't lived up to being a 4th overall, couldn't score playing with McD. Couldn't score in Carolina and just had his second double hip surgery in 2-3 yrs as a 25 yr old?
Yamo - Would you give up anything to get a ridiculously small, doesn't produce overly well, overpaid guy with neck and concussion problems?
Kostin -His rights were a throw in to get the Hawks to take all of Yamo's cap hit. Supposedly according to Gregor, he was about to accept a 1.75 mill deal in the KHL right before he was traded but was held off accepting to see if the Wings will get close. I like Kostin but I am not paying a guy who isn't great defensively and right now is a 4th liner who got hot with a 20% shooting percentage 1.75 mill.
The other players you listed, they got assets back for them. But like I always say when I see fans cry foul when the Oilers get rid of one of their lower tier guys. Turn the trade around. What would you give up to get that player as an Oiler? Is the answer is nothing or pretty much nothing, why does anyone think other GM's should give up anything to get them.
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You're missing the point. The problem isn't that these players have zero or negative trade value. The problem is the Oilers are keeping players until they have zero or negative trade value. Accepting JP's and Yammo's arbitration last year is a bad decision if you're going to trade both away for nothing in 11 months. Sometimes events happen where a player's value crashes and the organization gets screwed, like Klefbom, but that's not what happened here. The Oilers screwed the Oilers. Again.
The secondary point is it's entirely predictable that Holland is going to blow through the newly acquired Cap Space tomorrow on someone who won't address the Oilers' problems.
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I am not missing the point and I think the fans that are complaining are conveniently forgetting their stance before.
I can't remember if you were one of them but there were lots of posters in here who line up to say how crappy it is that the Oilers didn't get anything for JP as an example but they were the same guys advocating for the Oilers to lock up JP for long term at more money than what the arbitrator was giving him. That's a fact man.
TONS of guys in there were screaming how stupid the Oilers were for not locking up JP because he's this amazing top 6 guy with all these awesome fancy stats and the Oilers are going to regret it "here the Oilers go again not locking up guys cheap". All JP did was be AWFUL all year long. He didn't produce squat for McD, went to the Cane to play with his buddies and was WORSE at producing and was scratched a ton. Now it comes out he needs double hip surgery AGAIN So who knows what his future is.
So if the Oilers had done want many posters in here wanted and crucified the Oilers for not doing, one of them probably was you, they'd have a 4+ mill player for the next 6 yrs sitting on LTIR for maybe the whole bloody contract. That's a fact man. But instead, now you say they should have walked away from JP all together. So first I bet you were advocating to lock him up long term, now you go back and say they should have walked away from him all together. What a freaking hypocritical statement that is.
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That's such a lazy strawman. Whether or not I was wrong about JP is entirely immaterial to the fact Oilers management consistently turns guys they value in nothing. For whatever reason (incompetence, laziness, arrogance) we watch a team that cannot operate with enough foresight to drop a player until they absolutely have to. By the time they're ready to act they're always having the hand force. They're always backed into a corner of their own making because they mismanage assets. Yamamoto was mismanaged asset.
For the record, I was wrong about Puljujarvi but right about Yammo and Kassian. I should not have a better batting average than Holland (Chiarelli, Tambellini, MacTavish, and Lowe).
Please do not feed the bears. Feeding the bears creates a dependent population unable to survive on their own. Bears.
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