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Re: Oiler Draft Memory Lane.. [message #824040 is a reply to message #824039 ]	Tue, 30 May 2023 11:21

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AndersonRules wrote on Tue, 30 May 2023 10:19

As a random but very related item ... it surprises me that MLB has numerous foreign-born players that do not become fluent in English. For the Blue Jays alone - Ryu always interviews through a translator, ditto for Kikuchi. Even Guerrero uses a translator for most of his interviews. I don't know what it's like in the clubhouse, but clearly the team feels it is (a) acceptable for players to not be fully fluent in English, and (b) worth their while to pay for translators to assist non-English-speakers.

Is there any reason that NHL teams could not approach foreign players similarly? (For what it's worth, I can think of one - but it's not terribly compelling in my mind.)

Also - RD, I was (and still am) an outstanding student. I have a Ph.D., am a published author in my field, teach and speak as my full-time gig. But I suck at languages.

I 100% understand learning a new language is difficult. But I bet if you got a job in a non speaking English country and you had a year to prepare before you made the move, you would do what you could to try and learn the language as best as you could. They start doing draft ranking years in advance. JP would have been ranked very high well over a year before he was drafted. He had time to try to learn at least some English. Many people will try to learn a new language as best as they can in a short time just because they are going on a trip to another country for longer than a week. JP was going to be moving to North America to live and work whether it was the AHL or NHL so you'd think he could have put in a little bit of effort or someone around him set it up.

For your example of baseball. If a coach has to go talk to a pitcher, you can have a translator walk out to the mound because the play physically stops. Baseball also uses a lot of hand signals that a person can memorize and know that when he taps his arm in a certain way, it means this. Baseball also has plenty of down time where someone can come over and talk to the player while he sits for 5, 10 mins after he's done batting. Baseball in general is also a way slower sport than hockey so there is more opportunity to translate if you have too. Could you have a translator at practice for hockey? Sure. It would slow things down but you could. You can't have a translator on the ice while the play is going. When he was on a line with McD and as that line comes off the ice for 1 or 2 shifts to rest and McD leans over to his linemates and says "when I do this or that, you should do this" you can't have a translator on the bench running over. Or same with the coach when he leans down to talk to a player for 10 seconds.

So make up all the excuses you want, but when a person takes a job, the employer expects that person to be prepared to do the job to the best of their ability. That includes doing whatever training that is part of the job description. Being able to communicate is part of a hockey players job. So if the coach or your linemates can't communicate with you, it's going to impact how you do your job.

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