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Re: Oiler Draft Memory Lane.. [message #824038 is a reply to message #824030 ]	Tue, 30 May 2023 08:41

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Adam wrote on Mon, 29 May 2023 15:42

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 29 May 2023 14:04

Are you seriously using a guy drafted 36 yrs before JP as an example?! Kurri was drafted in 1980. Come on!! When Kurri was drafted, European players were no where near as common in the NHL as they are now. There are lots of Europeans now so knowing at least some English is pretty standard.

If a regular person knew years in advance they were going to be moving to a country that spoke a different language, the massive majority of people would in advance at least try to learn some of the local language to help with the transition. JP could barely say Yes. Most people would do this on their own without a PAID professional manager giving them advice. It was a major screw up by JP and his agent not to at least have some level of English before the draft. Was it the only mistake by both sides? Absolutely not but it was a factor and to say it wasn't is absolute BS.

How'd you do in all your high school courses? Straight A's in everything? Did you fully apply yourself constantly?

I did pretty well in most classes. I do do engineering for a living so generally you have to do pretty well in school.

If your point is he was a young guy just making mistakes. It doesn't apply in my opinion to him and it's just another made up excuse for the guy who screwed up big time. Like it or not these "young guys" are not your normal young finding his way in the world. He from a young age would have been identified as being special and had people guiding him. He would have been told what to do, when to do it and how to do it since he was a young teen to give him the best chance.

Do you seriously think that McD or Leon or name whatever successful player in the NHL you want just woke up one day as a teen and knew how to train, how to eat, how to act, how to do all the things they needed to do to get to the next level? Of course not. All the NHL players were born with god given talent but all of them would have had outside help. So could it be that JP just isn't smart enough to figure out that maybe learning a little English would be a good idea when you plan on working in an English speaking country? I guess so. You can literally download an app on your phone and learn a language so these days, it's not hard to get access to some but hey, maybe that was beyond his thinking of being important. But he would have had multiple people working around him who's literal job was to make sure he did what was needed to get to the next level and succeed. So someone in the JP camp screwed up big time.

Did I expect him to be able to speak fluently? NO but how about being able to put together a few words in a sentence and maybe understand some. How are you supposed to function when you have no clue what the coach is saying in practice and especially no clue what he is saying on the bench or have any clue what your linemates are saying on the ice or bench. You watch the bench, guys are talking all the time about what they are doing and JP wouldn't have been able to do any of that and it showed because he a lot of times looked completely lost. I watched his interview after he was drafted, he could barely say yes. That's ridiculous and that's on him and his development team.

If you Adam took a job in a non English speaking country and you at least 1 yr before you had to show up to work, you show up for work not able to speak or understand a word of the language and not being able to read the language and as your boss tells you what he needs you to do in that language and you got no clue what he says because you never bothered to learn any of the language, who's fault is that, yours or your bosses? The excuses need to stop for the guy. He was a first line forward on the World Junior team of a country that regularly produces players for the NHL. So well in advance before he was actually drafted, he knew he would be drafted, he knew he would be drafted very high and he knew he would be in North America playing hockey very soon after his draft. It was a major screw up on his part and his development team.

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