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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 10 February 2023 15:59 |
| Adam wrote on Fri, 10 February 2023 15:36 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Fri, 10 February 2023 09:27 |
I didn't think it was a goal. You can't just crash into the goalie. Foegele had a free lane in from the blue line and just took the goalie out.
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As I said in the other thread though - why not just force the refs to make the call in real-time? I tend to agree that any time you let the refs look at it in super slow motion, they're going to see that there was some contact, and any contact that isn't grabbing a goal pad and pulling it out of the way is going to be likely enough to wipe out a goal. But it's hard to say how much Foegele impacted Hart and how much was Hart's momentum from the save he just made, and if the contact was so incidental that the ref called a good goal to begin with, then how is it better for the league to pull the goals off the board.
I am curious how many goals get taken off the board for goalie interference in a season? How many for off-side? It does not go the opposite way, because if a ref blows a play down for goalie interference and gets it wrong, then the play is dead - you can't add a goal. Same for off-sides. Is it 30 goals a year the NHL throws out for these? Is the game better for it? I'd argue not (clearly, since I've made the argument forcefully a few times now).
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I think the compromise is to allow replay review but it can only be watched at full speed. If you can't see an offside without zooming in on a frozen frame, I don't care about it. Same for goalies. I thought that wasn't a goal live because he had a free lane to the 'tender and ran him. The full speed replay, in my opinion, made it obvious that he skated in from the blue line like we was running a wrestling ring.
No one forces the refs to make real call time because leagues and authorities are so afraid of the screaming meanies who complain about calls against their team. Refs either don't speak or aren't allowed to speak and the league certainly never says "that was the call, we stand behind it. Shut up". We get endless patronizing ramblings about the importance of getting every call right no matter what. Which is fine (but boring) for black and white calls like offside and puck over glass but impossible for grey area calls like goaltender interference or catching a touchdown pass.
Basically, we created a pretentious system that was custom designed to fail. Yes, we. Not they, we.
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A friend of mine suggested that they need the replays, because otherwise refs could be crooked. I think it's actually easier for a ref to be crooked if they get to decide these things in slow motion and come up with a rationale for why they're making a call. If you're a ref paid to fix a game, you just can't rely on the team you're working to make win to score a goal that may have been off-side.
Especially when you can just do your best to fix it by selectively calling or not calling penalties - which no one would find weird or inconsistent at all.
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