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Adam wrote on Wed, 11 January 2023 16:04

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 11 January 2023 15:28

Steve wrote on Wed, 11 January 2023 14:55

McDavid and Drai are not to blame, certainly, but I do think that their presence has a psychological effect that can have a negative consequence on the team.

1) The GM thinks he can stock the rest of the roster with AHL players and still win because the stars will carry the team. Multiple McDavid years have been wasted for this reason alone.

2) The depth players think they don't need to score because the stars will do it for them.

3) The coach plays the hell out of the stars thinking that they can win the games by themselves.

These aren't conscious thoughts for those involved, but I think it has an effect. It takes leadership at all three levels to break the cycle. It's not all on the stars to fix these problems happening around them.

We saw the coaching change help last year, but I don't really want the coached changed every year. We may not have the best coaches, but I don't think they are the biggest problem. The biggest problem is the supporting cast. Kane, Nuge and Hyman are the type of support players we need, but we need more of them. On defense I didn't think we would miss Duncan Keith as much as we are, but it's been a massive black hole on left D behind Nurse.

The margins for winning in this league are small. The addition of Kane back from injury and a solid defensemen could make a big difference.



I think all of 1, 2 and 3 are the blame of management and coaches though. Really nothing to do with McDavid and Drai.

Get and keep good players and keep their confidence up and make proper use of them. Problem solved. McDrai deals are bargins now so the cap space they use is not an excuse in any way anymore either.

We just didn't do a good job of building this team, so early in the season our coach goes into panic mode and all he can think to do is try to win games using a few players. Super disappointing that Woody would go there, I thought he was better than that and he would be trying to keep everyone involved and try to lift this group up, even if there was some short term pain. Holding some belief that the team he had the last half of last season is still there and keeping some balance would pay off. But, nope, Woody is all about the panicky coaching now it seems, and quick punishing of any little mistake from guys lower on the team social order. And something obviously has gone horribly wrong with how the group plays defense...*cough* Coffey *cough* Gonna keep pounding that Coffey drum because it's ridiculous we added him and seems very deserved that we would suffer if he is sticking his nose in.


Does anyone know what role he's actually playing? It could definitely be a real issue.

McLellan basically ghost-wrote a Spector article about Paul Coffey when he was added as the "skills coach" complaining about how useless an add that was. Woodcroft was part of that team at that time, and likely has a similar view of his old mentor's nemesis. If there does continue to be interference from above in the coaching, well, remember all that stuff I said about toxic culture???



Coffey? Defensive advisor he said in an intermission interview I believe, 1-2 months ago. Freaked me out, but at the same time, seemed to explain a lot of what was happening. Can't shake it now :)



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