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 Re: Review: Edmonton @ Los Angeles (Game #42) [message #816440 is a reply to message #816437 ]
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RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 16:29

Adam wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 16:13

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 10 January 2023 15:33

My guess is that Nicholson will retire. He does turn 70 in May and with all the Hockey Canada association it would be a good time to do that. Holland moves up into Nicholson's role and Brad Holland is the GM.


Good @#$%ing lord. If another Oilers exec fails upward again!? I'm already at my wit's end. I've been banging the drum asking for responsible, savvy, ACCOUNTABLE management for over a decade now. How there haven't been big changes on this team already, I'll never fully understand, but to actually have anyone happy if we have A) a failing GM promoted and B) his @#$%ing son made the new GM!?!?

Wow.

You know what Adam, I am really getting sick and tired of you putting words in my mouth. Where the hell did I say that I was loving that idea? WHERE. Point it out to me.

I said it was my guess, that's it. I never said I liked it or thought it was a good idea, my GUESS is based on a pattern of what the organization has done over the years and the advancement of Brad into his position to me telegraphs that move.

I get we have differing opinions but why are you constantly being such a jerk to me? What's your problem?



I've explained this to you before, but I'll try again - it's not about you. I'm not being a jerk to you. I'm reacting to thoughts and ideas and addressing them. If I respond to a specific poster's comment, it doesn't mean that I am directly taking aim at that person. I think I ranted in response to a g2k comment yesterday. I wasn't disputing anything he said, or denigrating his knowledge in any way.

My comment is because I could totally see what you suggest happening, because it's the kind of backwards crap that we've seen the Oilers do for years. It really hits all the notes - failing up, nepotism, complete ignorance of the facts, and locking in years more of failure by continuing to employee dinosaurs who don't understand how to manage a hockey team and who bring absolutely no creativity to the job.

Could Brad Holland be capable? Maybe, but if the Oilers replace Ken Holland by just promoting his son? It's lazy, brutal management and it would fail to acknowledge that this year, with both Holland's in the fold, the team is completely failing. Neither of them deserve a promotion.

The Oilers should do a fulsome hiring process for once, and hire someone who brings some different ideas to the table, because what we should understand by now is that what made a team successful in 1998 with double the salary of almost anyone else in the league, isn't going to work now. The next GM needs to understand how to manage the cap, they need to understand they need multiple viewpoints in the room, not just an echo chamber of old hockey guys. They need to understand that data can be valuable, and that you need people who are able to interpret it well - this likely means some level of investment. They need to be capable negotiators who don't think that it would be bad to win a trade - my god, I still can't believe Holland thinks that - and they need to not come looking to hire a bunch of their family members to the organization. It's ridiculous that so many of our GMs and executives have added family to the payroll. Why Katz has put up with that is beyond me. What are the odds that the best person for the jobs that weren't competitively hired for were Wayne Gretzky's brother, Pete Chiarelli's brother and Ken Holland's son? Is Nicholson's wife really the best photographer to hire for repeated projects? Kevin Lowe's kids are sprinkled throughout the organization. This kind of thing is just terrible for team culture and this isn't a family business.

My ire is all at the organization that just can't figure that stuff out. It's never about you, so please try not to take offence.



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