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inverno76 Messages: 2577
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 29 November 2022 11:11 | Full disclosure, I think Nurse brings a ton of value to the team. I think he gets WAY too much criticism and wonder if some of it isn't hockey related. I agree that while he got market value at the time of his contract, it's too much. He in my opinion should probably be making in the 8 range.
When I see some fan go off on a tangent about Nurse and how terrible he is and how they need to get rid of them, I don't pay much attention to it nor do I think that person knows what they are talking about. However, my ultimate goal for the Oilers is to improve and win a cup. So as much as I like Nurse and what he brings, if trading Nurse allows them to improve the defense so they can win a cup, the only 2 players I see as untouchable are McD and Leon, so I will entertain a Nurse trade. If the Oilers trade Nurse, that means they are upgrading his spot. So who are they getting to replace him?
The guy they get to replace Nurse has to do the following because this is what Nurse does for the Oilers and if you are trading Nurse, the replacement has to be better at all of these than Nurse. Nurses stats are 22 games, 3 goals, 12 pts, +4, 23:46 per night. 0.57 PP, 2.44 PK:
- Be able to play 23+ mins against the other teams best players all the time every shift. Many games he will exceed 23 mins so the replacement has to be capable of doing that.
- Be able to score 10+ goals and 40+ pts minimum every year and score that primarily 5 on 5. That's what Nurse puts up yearly. He was on pace for 10 goals 40 pts last year, he's on pace for 11- 45 this year and he's done that multiple times in his career. The Oilers have Bouchard going forward so Nurse's replacement won't get much PP time to boost his points so 40 pts min 5 on 5.
- Be able to play on the PP when needed. Nurse will get some second pairing at times but also step in on the PP when needed.
- Be a lock on the PK. Nurse plays a TON of PK time.
- Has to defend well. People who dislike Nurse say he can't defend. That's simply not true. You can't play as much as he does against other teams best players and not be able to defend pretty well.
- Has to skate very well.
- Has to be able to rush the puck and also move the puck decently. Nurse is not an elite puck mover but he's decent at it.
- For me. He has to have size. Nurse is 6'4 221 lbs. I firmly believe you need some size on defense to help clear the net and you especially need it in the playoffs.
- He has to have a physical edge. You don't have to destroy people every night but Nurse brings a physical edge to the Oilers defense that is needed especially in the playoffs.
- He needs to have some toughness. Some level of toughness is still needed in the game. He's the toughness on the Oilers defense so if you get rid of that, I feel you have to replace it.
So that's Nurses job description. I probably missed a few but that I feel this is the main stuff. The list is pretty extensive and I think very hard to replace. The guys I think that can at least equal that, there aren't a lot of them and the guys that do all of that and do it better than Nurse, there are very few and they usually get norris votes. So if you trade Nurse, who is replacing that AND, I forgot, make less than Nurse?
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No one. Nurse is our defacto number one defense man until someone is developed and surpasses him over time. He is untradeable, and hence irreplaceable.
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