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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9) [message #813288 is a reply to message #813281 ]	Mon, 31 October 2022 14:27

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 31 October 2022 10:54

Dragon_Matt wrote on Mon, 31 October 2022 10:44

I do think he made a couple mistakes on there. I don't think you can win if you pay 4 guys top dollar. The Oilers are pretty close to being in the same problem scenario, at least we could potentially still offload Barrie and Foegle if it were required and we have McD and Drai are both discount contracts. McD, Drai and Nurse as our top paid guys, and really only Nurse got top dollar.

TO is in for a hard ride, unless they trade some expensive pieces, which they may very well have to do. Next year is the end of Matthews Nylander and Brodie's contracts.

I would say paying Tavares top money and dollars to be your second line center when he wanted to come play for you to fulfill a life long dream was a mistake. He was and still is a good player but I didn't think he was worth 11 mill back in 2018 and he's definitely not worth that now. He's right now the 5th highest cap hit in the league and I never thought he wasn't a top 20 player back then and he's definitely not now.

That's easy to say now, but Tavares was arguably the best free agent to hit the market in the last five years. There was intense competition to sign him. He was 18th in the league in scoring the year ahead of his contract, and he's 23rd in scoring in the five years since. Yes, he's 5th highest in cap hit, but he's only making $1.5MM more than 23rd place (actually a 10-way tie for 19th, including Seth Jones and Jamie Benn).

On top of the competitive pressures of being a full-on free agent, Tavares is also buoyed slightly by having signed his deal pre-Covid. That stoppage and the resulting flat cap have cooled salary run-up in the last 2-3 years, otherwise there's a good chance he's further down the list at this point.

Honestly, the biggest mistake the Leafs made was keeping Babcock as long as they did. Had they not had him, you might have seen less of a hardline stance from all of Matthews, Marner and Nylander on their current deals. They were playing for a coach they hated, so they insisted on top dollar if they were going to submit themselves to that.

As I said before, I'm not much of one for schadenfreude on this stuff. Most people around the league will look at the Oilers upcoming cap issues in the next few years and wonder why we went as long or as high as we did for Nugent-Hopkins or Nurse or for that matter, why we've carried so much dead cap space (over $3.5MM this year including buried cap hit) in years where we could REALLY use the relief (moreso than we could have used the few draft picks it would have cost to flush that contract to someone else...)

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Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: OilFans on Sat, 29 October 2022 22:30
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Kr55 on Sat, 29 October 2022 22:42
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Skookum Jim on Sat, 29 October 2022 22:52
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Skookum Jim on Sat, 29 October 2022 23:07
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Skookum Jim on Sat, 29 October 2022 23:31
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Kr55 on Sun, 30 October 2022 00:38
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Mike on Sun, 30 October 2022 07:58
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 31 October 2022 08:04
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Adam on Mon, 31 October 2022 09:37
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 31 October 2022 09:44
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Adam on Mon, 31 October 2022 09:57
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 31 October 2022 10:44
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 31 October 2022 10:54
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Adam on Mon, 31 October 2022 14:27
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Dragon_Matt on Tue, 01 November 2022 09:01
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Mike on Tue, 01 November 2022 09:45
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Dragon_Matt on Tue, 01 November 2022 10:39
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 01 November 2022 10:39
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: NZ Oiler Fan on Mon, 31 October 2022 11:23
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #9)	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 31 October 2022 12:42

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