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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 15:17 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:30 |
| NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:12 |
| Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:06 |
No question - the Oilers inability to develop players outside of the first round is part of the reason why they've sucked for the bulk of the last 20 years. However, you can't fix that overnight, and if you have significant holes in your lineup, then you need to acquire guys another way. The draft isn't the only route.
Now is 20 games of Brassard worth the chance of some kid we draft next year making the team 5 years after that? He doesn't have to add a lot in order to cover the bet. He scores a goal or two in the playoffs and I think we can call it a wash.
The Oilers need to improve their development and drafting, for sure, but one 4th rounder isn't going to be a massive difference maker, and if McDavid and Draisaitl leave because of lack of playoff success, it doesn't matter anyhow. We're sunk then.
I agree that Brassard doesn't move the needle much for me, but neither does a 2023 4th rounder. I can't lose sleep over someone who has a significant percent chance of never playing a game.
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And the cycle continues because we don't have enough 11% chances and likely won't find a functional player. Maybe if we actually used all the picks we are given, then we'll have enough 11% chances to get somebody, but no, we'll just move them for players that are only as good as the guys we already have and we'll have this same argument 5 years from now.
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So if you were a GM, would you never move a draft pick?
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Certainly not for the players they traded for today. I need actual team improvement if I'm going to give something up. A better goalie? Sure. A player like Toffoli with term left? Sure. A 7th defenceman and a 4th line centre? No way.
Today was just trading for the sake of trading. To please the masses that were, even on here, complaining about the GM not being "in" as every deal went by. Tonight's team isn't any better than Saturday's was.
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I'm going to disagree with you there. Kulak in means Kris Russell is out of the lineup. That's an upgrade. He may push Keith down roster too, which is good. The old fella's lack of speed gets exposed by quick teams.
Brassard - well, I'd rather have him in the lineup than Brad Malone, so there's a tangible upgrade too. Maybe not as big of one, but I don't think it's fair to say there's nothing. We had games last month with all of Shore, Malone and Sceviour on the roster, so fair to say the team can use a little more depth.
I don't think a team should trade all their draft picks, but it certainly should be an asset that is on the table. I think that the team needs to be conscious of the window to win, and these next couple of years are of paramount importance over six years from now. There's plenty of ways to acquire players, and the draft is just one of them. If we've won a couple of Cups between now and then, and managed to retain our stars on to their next deals, then our chances of attracting talent improves greatly.
I think that there is a tangible impact from a team's management taking a bet on the team he has and showing the confidence to add at the deadline, and McDavid and Draisaitl need to see some level of success here if we're going to hope they stay.
I'll agree that the team lacks a solid plan though, and that they're over-focused on what fans think as opposed to how to build a winner. I think this is underlined by the fact they hurt their own cap going in to the deadline, and not only didn't address their biggest weakness (goal) but communicated to the market via multiple leaks that they weren't going to try to address that as early as a month ago. I really also question the communication from Holland around the 1st round pick. It's fine not to trade it if there isn't a good reason to do so, but saying that he won't move it because he doesn't think we're in a position that indicates we're a contender? That's a slap in the face to his own team.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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