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Adam wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:06 |
NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 14:00 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:47 |
NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:41 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:24 |
NetBOG wrote on Mon, 21 March 2022 13:18 | Pissing more assets away
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You are upset about trading away a 4th rounder for Brassard?
I found a chart and 10.9% of 4th round picks make the NHL and play 100 games. To even make the NHL for a 4th rounder, you would most likely play all your junior after your draft year, so 2 more years plus 3 yrs of pro min. Khaira was a 3rd rounder and it took him till his 6th after his draft before he had his first full season with the Oilers and he's still working on establishing himself.
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You just wasted an 11% chance at getting a good player for 6 weeks of a player that won't move the needle. Oilers have actually done quite well with 4th round picks. They have 2 good looking ones in the pipeline and guys like Lagesson, Jones, and Rieder were 4th picks. The team is going to need players 4-6 years from now. I know that's shocking but it's true.
Brassard brings very little that the Oilers can't get from existing players. This is a useless waste of a chance to find a good player.
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You look at what Tampa is doing. They throw around first like nothing and generally a first rounder even a late first rounder is pretty likely to be an NHLer, probably will have an actual career and will be in your line up in a fairly short period of time, yet you are worried about a 4th rounder who if you are luck, might play a handful of games 5-6 yrs from when he is drafted.
I guess we will disagree on the value of that pick.
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Take a long look at that Tampa roster. Every player of consequence (outside of Sergachev who they basically acquired as a draft pick) has been drafted. They brought in those players on cheap contracts so they could pay the high end guys.
Where was Point drafted?
Where was Palat drafted?
Where was Cirelli drafted?
Where was Killorn drafted?
None of them in the first two rounds, I can assure you that.
Drafting and development needs to be priority just as much as every other part of running an NHL team. You need good, cheap, young players to keep the expensive players. The Oilers are basically missing an entire draft worth of players this year. That leaves a giant hole in their player development.
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No question - the Oilers inability to develop players outside of the first round is part of the reason why they've sucked for the bulk of the last 20 years. However, you can't fix that overnight, and if you have significant holes in your lineup, then you need to acquire guys another way. The draft isn't the only route.
Now is 20 games of Brassard worth the chance of some kid we draft next year making the team 5 years after that? He doesn't have to add a lot in order to cover the bet. He scores a goal or two in the playoffs and I think we can call it a wash.
The Oilers need to improve their development and drafting, for sure, but one 4th rounder isn't going to be a massive difference maker, and if McDavid and Draisaitl leave because of lack of playoff success, it doesn't matter anyhow. We're sunk then.
I agree that Brassard doesn't move the needle much for me, but neither does a 2023 4th rounder. I can't lose sleep over someone who has a significant percent chance of never playing a game.
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One of the few times I agree with you.
If Brassard can come in fill in a bottom 6 role, maybe kill penalties, maybe be better defensively than someone else the Oilers have, kill a few penalties maybe, chip in a goal or 2 to help the Oilers get in to the playoffs. Like you said, score a goal or 2 in the playoffs, it's totally worth a 4th rounder who all the percentages say probably won't ever see the NHL. Desharnais a few years ago helped the Oilers get into the next round in 2016. If Brassard can do something like that, totally worth it.
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