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Re: Oilers Goalie Trade [message #801686 is a reply to message #801670 ]	Mon, 14 March 2022 13:01

Adam
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Mike wrote on Mon, 14 March 2022 07:16

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 10 March 2022 20:33

The trade opened up a lot of possibilities.... Unfortunately, we made almost no use of the advantages the trade provided.

Thankfully it's the only time that has ever happened, not making the most of opportunities...

You all remember Cap Space from 2017-2018? We picked him up for Eberle and a Pouliot buyout. Difference make that kid. And how about Cap Space Jr from this past off-season? He was huge and was going to plug huge org holes like 3C and 1G...

Caleb Jones is on fire currently too for Chicago. Getting plenty of ice time, putting up some points and by all accounts playing well.

It's still interesting to see how the Oilers approached that week last year.

- Began talking to Chicago about Duncan Keith, who Chicago was desperate to dump and who had asked for a trade, giving the Blackhawks only two options as to where - Edmonton and Vancouver (where he's hated).
- The Oilers leak that Chicago had asked for a 1st and Ethan Bear and that we feel that's too rich of a price. I think this leak is as much market sounding (and softening) as it is any kind of negotiating technique, and the ask just shows how little Bowman thinks of Ken Holland. He just ignores all his weakness in negotiating position and takes as hard an opening stance as he can. It's so aggressive it would have had a real risk of completely ending the discussions, except that he's dealing with a guy who LOVES veteran defenceman, and has made a big effort to sign a lot of them in their late 30s over the years.
- The Oilers almost immediately are willing to send Jones and a conditional pick (somehow oblivious to the fact that the condition ties their hands to make other deals with non-1st round picks this year) but ask for Chicago to take on a large contract, or to carry salary. Bowman flatly refuses as if the Oilers are making a ridiculous ask and holds firm.
- Holland caves.

Then, because he didn't trade Bear for Keith, and because he somehow was completely blindsided by Larsson's desire to leave a team with two of the best players in the world for an expansion team where he can just lose constantly all year, Holland decides we still didn't need Bear. Somehow, losing one RHD was enough to convince us we could afford to lose another, and we deal Bear for a 3rd line winger. Still hilarious for a team that made such a big deal of acquiring a RHD that they actually thought it was worth trading their second best player at the time for a shutdown guy, but then a couple years later trade a RHD who can play in all situations for a grind guy.

Annnnnd now, according to Ryan Rishaug, the wishlist for Ken Holland for the trade deadline is a RHD. Not sure what that looks like for the team if they add an extra guy there - they wouldn't sideline Bouchard again, would they!? And if that's indeed our acquisition, then you have to wonder if the ownership is paying any attention. This GM committed long-term to not one but TWO RHD this summer, so adding another at the trade deadline would seem to be admitting a large failure, would it not?

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Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 02 March 2022 21:44
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Kr55 on Wed, 02 March 2022 21:45
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 02 March 2022 21:46
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 03 March 2022 09:53
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 03 March 2022 10:07
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 03 March 2022 10:19
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 03 March 2022 11:44
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: GabbyDugan on Thu, 03 March 2022 14:42
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 03 March 2022 19:41
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 03 March 2022 20:53
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 03 March 2022 21:15
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Fri, 04 March 2022 12:43
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Fri, 04 March 2022 13:15
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 04 March 2022 13:48
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Fri, 04 March 2022 14:49
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Fri, 04 March 2022 14:58
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Goose on Fri, 04 March 2022 15:45
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Kr55 on Fri, 04 March 2022 15:52
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Fri, 04 March 2022 16:54
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Dragon_Matt on Fri, 04 March 2022 13:51
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Kr55 on Sat, 05 March 2022 23:20
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Sun, 06 March 2022 09:32
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: K.McC#24 on Sun, 06 March 2022 10:57
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Sun, 06 March 2022 11:49
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Sun, 06 March 2022 12:14
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Sun, 06 March 2022 15:00
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: nullterm on Sun, 06 March 2022 16:45
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Skookum Jim on Sun, 06 March 2022 17:54
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Kr55 on Sun, 06 March 2022 18:34
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Sun, 06 March 2022 20:17
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Sun, 06 March 2022 20:20
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Sun, 06 March 2022 20:21
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: K.McC#24 on Sun, 06 March 2022 22:21
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrudeRemarks on Mon, 07 March 2022 21:35
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 07 March 2022 21:38
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: K.McC#24 on Thu, 10 March 2022 16:21
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 10 March 2022 16:48
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Goose on Thu, 10 March 2022 17:04
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 10 March 2022 17:12
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Goose on Thu, 10 March 2022 17:15
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 10 March 2022 18:31
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 March 2022 18:49
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Kr55 on Thu, 10 March 2022 17:33
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Mike on Mon, 14 March 2022 07:16
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Adam on Mon, 14 March 2022 13:01
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Dragon_Matt on Tue, 15 March 2022 10:38
Re: Oilers Goalie Trade	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 07 March 2022 16:54

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