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Re: Worst of the Worst [message #799182 is a reply to message #799179 ]	Mon, 07 February 2022 12:43

Adam
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Also - because why not - I looked at this by GM tenure:

Kevin Lowe (2000-2008) - 263-217-47-47 (13th out of 30)

Lowe is the beneficiary of a couple of things - first, he was left in pretty good shape by Sather, and secondly, there were a lot more old school GMs back then. No one used much for analytics, and they didn't have to deal with cap management. Still, good on him for being an average GM in his era.

Steve Tambellini (2008-13) - 141-177-51 (30th out of 30)

Tambellini didn't have the same good fortune to be given a solid team, but man, he sure didn't do much to improve it in that time. Worth noting, that Lowe isn't much removed here. When they hired Tambellini, they said that they had to give him the GM role because his Vancouver contract didn't allow him to leave for an AGM role. Lowe's record including this period goes from 13th down to 26th (404-406-47-93).

Craig MacTavish (2013-15) - 53-88-23 (29th out of 30)

Surely no one could do as badly as Tambellini, especially with three first overall picks in the mix...oh good lord. MacTavish isn't last in the league only because the Sabres were ridiculously bad including an intentional faceplant to try to get Connor McDavid. His points percentage is significantly worst than even the Tambellini era. It's ugly, and this came at a point where the team believed they were ready to start winning again.

Peter Chiarelli (2015-2019) - 149-147-32 (23rd out of 30)

All the incompetence of the prior eras gave Chiarelli an opportunity to start off with a team boasting McDavid, Draisaitl, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, Klefbom, Yakupov. And it does give the team a lift. Sadly, not a big lift and given the assets that he had, 22nd in the league is miserably bad. (I have given him full credit for 2018-19 season, despite his dismissal in January.)

Ken Holland (2019-present) - 95-60-14 (12th of 31)

So some good news? The Oilers aren't in the dumps of the league any more! Of course, that's entirely driven by a generational player and another superstar who were already in the organization basically going supernova. And if you compare to the same point in Crosby & Ovechkin's careers, the Penguins were 3rd in the league over the 5th to 7th seasons, and the Capitals were one spot better in 2nd. The team is lagging to where it should be and the window won't be open forever. But at least we're not dead last any more?

Just as a point of reference, I did look at Sather's time too (1980-2000). On both points and points percentage, the Oilers are 4th in the entire league, even considering the dark days in the 1990s and the fact that for half his tenure, the team couldn't afford to compete with some of the other powerhouses in the league. Sather was a pretty good GM relative to his peers.

[Updated on: Mon, 07 February 2022 12:50]

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Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Mon, 07 February 2022 10:45
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Mon, 07 February 2022 12:43
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 07 February 2022 13:04
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Mon, 07 February 2022 15:23
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: oilfan94 on Mon, 07 February 2022 15:31
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Mon, 07 February 2022 16:03
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Mike on Tue, 08 February 2022 07:15
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 08 February 2022 12:07
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Kr55 on Tue, 08 February 2022 12:10
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Tue, 08 February 2022 14:10
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: nullterm on Tue, 08 February 2022 14:58
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 08 February 2022 15:31
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Kr55 on Tue, 08 February 2022 18:25
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Mike on Wed, 09 February 2022 05:23
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Rocksteady on Wed, 09 February 2022 08:50
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Mike on Wed, 09 February 2022 08:57
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Rocksteady on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:04
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:19
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:30
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:32
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:39
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 09 February 2022 09:51
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Dragon_Matt on Wed, 09 February 2022 11:52
Re: Worst of the Worst	By: Adam on Wed, 09 February 2022 15:45

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