 hitmen4
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 03 February 2022 09:34 |
| hitmen4 wrote on Thu, 03 February 2022 07:03 |
What a joke of a take. Bouchard has played all of 63 NHL games and you're carving him up because he's not a first pairing guy yet? Of course he's going to have some defensive mistakes, and probably lots of them. He's essentially a rookie defenseman even if the weird NHL rules for what qualifies a rookie says he's not.
Bottom line is that Bouchard is still one of our best defenseman. In terms of defenseman, he's #1 on the team in points, goals, assists. 2nd in +/-. If you don't like the traditional counting stats, here are his fancies:
CF%: 54.88
XGF%: 54.15
SCF%: 52.28
HDCF%: 51.02
He's on the right side of 50% on all counts, despite his defensive errors. He's already an elite offensive defenseman.
To be honest his defensive game actually isn't that bad when you consider he plays over 21 minutes a night despite only playing 63 NHL games. Rookie defenseman, even the elite ones, just aren't that good defensively most of the time. Luckily for those guys is most of them don't have to deal with portions of their fan base that think every defenseman that's 6'-3 needs to be the second coming of Chris Pronger before they've even played a full season.
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You made my point for me. We agree he's not an NHL 1st pair d-man.
NHL isn't a development league, if you plan on winning games.
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He's a 1st pair d-man on this team. We can argue, and agree on, that he probably shouldn't be on a contending team but the reality is he's the best option right now. Don't see the value in piling on the guy when he's playing great, all things considered. He drives play better than anyone on the back end and is exceeding expectations. Of all the things ailing the Oilers, I don't think Bouchard is very high on that list.
I'd say that Nurse's play is much a much more valid area for criticism. For a guy who is actually supposed to be a #1 d-man (and is about to be paid like one), can we really say he's lived up to expectations? Where is the outrage over his multiple defensive gaffs a game? Outrage is missing because he plays a physical game. This is what it really comes down to. I'm 100% convinced fans would have run Lidstrom out of town if he was an Oiler because he wasn't physical enough. Not saying Bouchard is or ever will be Lidstrom, but the point stands. D-men who aren't physical become whipping boys real quick. It's a shame that 63 games into his career a portion of the fanbase has the knives out already.
And player development does need to take place at the NHL level. Players arriving into the NHL are not finished products. How do you think cagey vets become cagey vets? By actually playing the roles they have the potential to and making/learning from their mistakes. It's a reality in the cap world that players on their ELC's need to play big roles on teams.
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By: OilFans on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:05 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:08 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:23 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:30 |
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By: g2k on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:28 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 17:55 |
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By: g2k on Wed, 02 February 2022 18:29 |
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By: g2k on Wed, 02 February 2022 18:33 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 18:46 |
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By: Mike on Thu, 03 February 2022 05:56 |
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By: Mike on Thu, 03 February 2022 08:02 |
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By: Goose on Thu, 03 February 2022 10:31 |
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By: Adam on Thu, 03 February 2022 10:55 |
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By: Kr55 on Thu, 03 February 2022 13:10 |
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By: hitmen4 on Thu, 03 February 2022 08:03 |
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By: hitmen4 on Thu, 03 February 2022 10:43 |
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By: Adam on Thu, 03 February 2022 10:10 |
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By: g2k on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:06 |
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By: g2k on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:24 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:33 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:35 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:35 |
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By: watchman on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:37 |
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By: Kr55 on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:43 |
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By: K.McC#24 on Wed, 02 February 2022 19:39 |
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