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Adam Messages: 7757
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Oscargasm wrote on Thu, 16 December 2021 07:26 |
They aren’t useless. They are extremely limited because any sniff of danger in a game and the Coach throws McDavid and Draisaitl out for 75% (rough estimation) of the game. The rest of the lineup can’t get into a groove, they come off the bench to stretch their legs and then are called off for McDrai to ‘save’ them. It’s amazing having two of the best players in the league but the coach also treats them as the only path to victory and it has to be draining on the rest of the team, how do you stay engaged when you don’t get that trust and ice time from your coach? It’s been like this for years no matter who is in the bottom 9. Oh Koskinen let in an early one again and McDrai are thrown together to get it back.
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One of the issues is that you can't play McDavid and Draisaitl 75% of the game. There's probably a good argument to be made that load management could help them be more effective in the minutes they do play, but I think I saw a number recently on how much ES time is without them, and it was around 60%. That's one of the issues with reverting to the line with them together all the time - it means that 3 lines then don't have one of them, and then you have more of the game where the Oilers are playing without one of them on the ice. If they're on separate lines, then you'd expect that they'd be at 55%+ with at least one of them out.
When Nuge has been out without them, he's holding his own. Slightly negative but not disastrously so - so I do wonder what it looks like if all three centered their own lines. When it's anyone else, it's been death. As Mike says, it's hard to believe everyone we've signed over the last three years to man the bottom six is a complete stiff so at some point you have to start questioning the coach.
I could maybe get behind the idea that it's because they don't play enough time, but I don't think that's the case. The third line is getting pretty regular shifts under TIppett and often the fourth line isn't getting 4 minutes a night either most nights (unless Benson's playing. He's not a favourite of this head coach). And the fact that Nuge - usually with Hyman and Yamamoto - is negative coupled with the fact that McDavid's hovered around even all year when not with Draisaitl both are problematic for me with that theory. I think McDavid should tip the ice at even strength and he used to - so why aren't we better at 5v5 when he's on the ice at least?
To me, that's suggests some systemic issue.
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