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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #32) [message #779945 is a reply to message #779936 ]	Wed, 17 March 2021 17:06

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Adam wrote on Wed, 17 March 2021 16:06

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Schmiddy starts, the whole world outside of Spec knew this.

Khaira out. Assumed. Also Neal is out tonight.

Kassian and Barrie took the skate. Will know on Kass this afternoon. Barrie likely a game time call.

Please jeebus on Barrie.

Kassian, meh. Refs seem to just call penalties on him when he tries to engage.

I'm not too concerned if Barrie can't play. I think Bouchard can step in on the powerplay and Barrie isn't a world beater on defence at 5v5. His minutes can be eaten up between Bouchard, Bear and Larsson. This is likely Barrie's only season as an Oiler, so it would be good to start getting some looks with Bouchard anyhow.

I know Bob Stauffer likes to beat the drum that defencemen aren't ready until they've played X00 games in the league, etc etc. but the fact is, impact defencemen make the league at the age Bouchard is, and all his closest peers in his draft class are playing important roles for their team already. He can't just sit idly in the press box night after night after night.

Not to mention it's hard to get to that magic x00 figure from the press box.

By the way - this is exactly why I'm trading one of the LH defencemen prospects if I'm the Oilers. There is ZERO chance that Dave Tippett is going to have two early 20s left shot defencemen in the lineup in the next couple of years while still having early 20s Bouchard on the right side. It just isn't going to happen, and if Samorukov, 15 months older than Bouchard and two full years older than Broberg, doesn't get a push in the next year or so, his value is going to plummet hard. If the team thinks he can be better than Broberg, make the call soon and trade Broberg, but they're not both making the team so we can't really delay that trade very long and maintain their trade value.

Question for you. Is there an instance where a team has done extremely well meaning division titles, winning playoff rounds and being a legit cup contender when at least half of their dmen are low 20's with barely any experience?

Bear wasn't playing well before he got the puck in the head and he definitely isn't playing well now. But unless I am mistaken, you like Bear a lot, think he should be playing a lot and think it would be stupid to get rid of him. Bear has 108 games of NHL xperience and will have 1.5 yrs of experience at the end of this season. I know he has some AHL while important, the NHL is a couple steps above the AHL.

Correct me if I am wrong but I believe you like Jones, think he should be playing and don't want him moved. He's not playing well, hasn't played well all year and has 76 NHL games total. So by the end of this season he will have just over 1 season of NHL games.

Bouchard you are advocating for and correct me if I am wrong, if you had your way, you'd have him in for Barrie. Maybe not totally this season but for sure next season. You see Bouchard in Barries spot and would probably lose it if they resigned Barrie. Bouchard has 19 NHL games and even if he played more than he has, he'd have at most half an NHL season.

So there are 3 guys who don't even have 2 NHL seasons of experience that you for sure and lots of others want to see in prime time, preferably right now. I didn't even count Lagesson who has so har 20 NHL total. He will probably get to half a NHL season. Lagesson looks to be a useful dman who correct if I am wrong, you like, have use for and definitely want to see play over Russell.

So for the record, I am not looking for a fight, not arguing, not even really disagreeing with you per say. I personally and I assume you are the same as me, want/EXPECT the Oilers to be good from this season and season going forward. We want/EXPECT the Oilers to be contending starting next season. So if that is the case yet most want at least 3, maybe 4 really inexperienced dmen being prime time. How do they win with that many young dmen? I am not even talking the prospects, I am talking the here and now with the 4 I mentioned. I can't think of a team that either won the cup or was a legit contender that didn't have at least 2/3 of their dmen as fairly experienced.

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