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Adam Messages: 7757
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Goose wrote on Wed, 27 January 2021 14:49 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 27 January 2021 12:20 |
| Adam wrote on Wed, 27 January 2021 13:16 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 27 January 2021 13:04 |
Turris is being played like a shutdown C now. 30% OZ starts. There is no way he will be able to dig out from this hole unless he is getting McDavid's starts closer to 60%. But then...who takes those D zone starts instead? McDavid I guess? hehe.
Holland did not give Tippett the C that Tippett seemed to want. Turris will never ever be a solid defensive player. He's doomed in this role. He's a mediocre offensive player that needs sheltered ice time to not be a liability.
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Worth noting too - McDavid and Draisaitl get all the tough matchups against the best players in the game and they're winning the battle there. Will they get scored on sometimes? Yes. Everyone does, and it's an easy story for chimps like Mark Spector to say they need to play a "200-foot game" because a check eluded them and scored, even though they're clearly putting up numbers well beyond what they're giving up.
The flip side of that is that our third and fourth lines are being eaten alive by third and fourth liners...that's a major problem. The stars are outscoring the opposition and keeping us in games, and the depth players are losing it for us.
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With those D zone starts though, you get in bad situations when the other team is putting good guys out. Tippett has just had to accept this happening, he can't play McDavid and Drai every shift. Turris has 3 GA's against Ehlers. 2 against Tatar/Gallagher. Other 3 were against 3rd line quality guys, like Perrault, Sutter, Roussel, MacEwan, Beagle.
Any coach that wants to win should be very afraid of a guy like Turris having to play C against good offensive guys. We just have no choice but to let it happen a bunch of times every game. Even sending him out for a D zone faceoff against them. Turris should probably be a winger right now if he was on an actual good team.
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I think the thing that makes me the most nervous is that the Draisaitl line has been killing it in terms of 5x5 GF% (Drai is 8 GF / 1 GA). At some point that is going to correct, and if something else doesn't shift at the same time, this team could lose 5 in a row.
The bottom 6 issues are nothing new. I think a lot of it was covered up by how good the special teams were last year, which is the one thing that gives me some hope. The PP that was one of the best ever last year and is a bit below average so far this year. The Oilers have actually given up 1 more PP goal than they've scored. I don't expect that will hold, but I don't know enough about tactics to know if they're doing something fundamentally different than they were last year or if they just miss Klefbom that much and Barrie hasn't fit well on the unit, or if it's just bad luck so far.
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My read is that it's a little of all of the above. The passing has not been as crisp with Barrie back there and there's been more errors. Teams are generally trying to attack the Oilers fairly aggressively as opposed to a tighter box - there's definitely some adjustments that teams have made to try to take away some of what we were doing last year. There's been much less opportunities where Draisaitl gets off the one-timer from the face-off circle so far.
But all that said, I think they have still been generating chances and probably deserved better than they've got in several games. The Carey Price game stands out as one where the PP probably should have had at least a couple.
It does seem to be starting to find it's legs, so I do think we're going to see it improve here - hopefully that off-sets a little of the correction when Draisaitl's line isn't scoring 83% of the goal share...
The worst thing for the Oilers is that it's not that the 3rd and 4th lines have been unlucky. They aren't getting much for quality opportunities, while allowing lots from the other team. It does sometimes feel like for the last however many years that they Oilers as an organization seem to think they can just rely entirely on top line production and have the bottom half of the roster just hang on by their fingernails and hope for the best.
I will say, I think the 3rd line has been improved having Kassian down there. It's a start anyhow. Now, 3-4 more live bodies and we may be okay...
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