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Helle wants out of Winny? [message #852935]	Thu, 27 August 2026 15:57

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Word is he's requested a trade.
We should be all over that. Cost would be high, but it'd be worth it imo.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #852936 is a reply to message #852935 ]	Thu, 27 August 2026 16:44

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 27 August 2026 15:57

Word is he's requested a trade.
We should be all over that. Cost would be high, but it'd be worth it imo.

I'm guessing his list is something like Florida, Tampa, Vegas and maybe a couple other USA teams.

Team USA at the olympics seems to have been 90% guys in the locker-room talking about how all guys on Canadian teams need to play on USA teams, and 10% letting Helly steal games for the gold.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #852948 is a reply to message #852936 ]	Tue, 01 September 2026 11:07

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I think the set of national pride came into the room when they won the gold. Tired of being beat by Canada time and again, and they finally win one.

USA hockey is very good, and their program has a chance to eclipse our own if we don't check out back.

The boys probably thought, USA hockey is better and we should keep our talents here.. national pride time of smush.

Brady and now Halle seem to have bought into it.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853003 is a reply to message #852935 ]	Tue, 15 September 2026 17:13

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Jets are saying they are not getting any good offers from the teams Helle would take a trade to.

Dreger is suggesting Helle will not report for training camp.

I hope they made him sit out until he opens up that list to include the oilers :)

[Updated on: Tue, 15 September 2026 17:16]

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- MacT, 2015

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853008 is a reply to message #852935 ]	Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

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Jets aren't going to do Helle any favors it looks like. Good. Wonder if they can get out of paying him too. I believe Helle's contract can just shift a year ahead too if he refuses to report all year.

Winnipeg Jets PR @WpgJetsPR

The Winnipeg Jets announced today they have suspended goaltender Connor Hellebuyck for failure to report to training camp.

General Manager Kevin Cheveldayoff will address the media at 10:30 a.m. tomorrow, Thursday, Sept. 17th, at hockey for all centre.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853009 is a reply to message #853008 ]	Thu, 17 September 2026 11:02

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

Twenty years ago I thought the Oilers should have done the same thing with Pronger. Deny his trade request, and suspend him if/when he doesn't show up for camp and wait him out.

Wonder if they had been more hard ass, if things would have been better or worse in the long run. Considering the next ten years, it could hardly have gone worse.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853011 is a reply to message #853009 ]	Thu, 17 September 2026 15:30

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benv wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 11:02

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

There is no way it could have gotten worse.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853012 is a reply to message #853011 ]	Thu, 17 September 2026 15:57

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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 15:30

benv wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 11:02

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

There is no way it could have gotten worse.

I think Lowe was quoted very recently about how he wishes he made Pronger just sit and let the heat die down. I would guess Lowe was just super overconfident in himself and that everything he touched would keep turning into gold because of his winning pedigree. He probably didn't think it was that big a deal to lose Pronger. Just needed to keep using his inherent Lowe winning powers to quickly build things back up to a contender.

Chevy in Winnipeg though. He knows Helle is THE piece to keep his team competitive for the foreseeable future. Either by Helle playing, or by getting something very good in return for him. One of those 2 things don't happen, the outcome is basically the same with any other action. Jets are going to struggle a lot.

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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853013 is a reply to message #853009 ]	Thu, 17 September 2026 16:11

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benv wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 11:02

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

Hard to say the best option at that stage. I mean, they tried to be real hardasses about Souray a couple years later and that was a total disaster. They ended up having to buy out his last year and watch him leave for nothing.

Now, he had had significant injuries and wound down his career soon after, but at the time of his banishment he was only a year removed from a 53 point campaign. Oilers may have been better off dealing him (certainly would have been better off treating him in a way that didn't make him feel he needed to go to Mark Spector to complain about the way they deal with players!)

Tough situation for Winnipeg fans. He's not going to get them anywhere close to what they probably should be able to get for a guy with his profile. I'm not sure sitting him out for a few weeks or months is going to improve that return. I imagine they're trying to convince him to come back still and work together towards getting something done, but it's a tough situation all around.

Interesting that Larkin is reporting to camp, although injured.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853014 is a reply to message #853013 ]	Thu, 17 September 2026 16:58

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Adam wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 16:11

benv wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 11:02

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 16 September 2026 20:31

I think the two situations are a bit different. My recollection is that the Oilers really did try to move Souray, but there were simply no takers. I believe Souray did say he would come to camp in September (after the Oilers couldn't trade him), but the Oilers told him to stay away--based more on his verbal lambasting of the team than on his trade request.

Pronger never really had anything bad to say about the Oilers' organization (at least not while he was still here). It's possible if the Oilers had taken a hard line with Pronger, it could have escalated into a similar war of words eventually. Even then, the Oilers would not have had any difficulty eventually trading him.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853052 is a reply to message #853013 ]	Thu, 24 September 2026 13:27

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Adam wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 16:11

Interesting that Larkin is reporting to camp, although injured.

The Larkin thing will be interesting to follow. There was a video of him looking like he was really mailing it in at training camp.

If you have a veteran, former captain, just going through the motions, completely unengaged and uninterested and mailing it in... what impact does that have on the rest of the lineup? I feel like at least in Winnipeg, while they will be much less talented, at least there is something to galvanize them in an "us against the world" type of mentality.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853076 is a reply to message #853052 ]	Fri, 25 September 2026 12:11

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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 24 September 2026 13:27

Adam wrote on Thu, 17 September 2026 16:11

Interesting that Larkin is reporting to camp, although injured.

Meh, people read too much in to a lot of things. Training camp for a veteran is really about just not getting hurt. I'm sure there's dozens and dozens of veteran players mailing it in right now - just they haven't made trade requests.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853196 is a reply to message #852935 ]	Thu, 01 October 2026 23:24

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On the topic of Helle and Larkin now. Bettman had a recent comment about NTC’s

Gino Hard
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Gary Bettman believes the NHL has gotten away from the original purpose of no-trade clauses 👀

Bettman says they were intended to protect players signing long-term in a place they wanted to stay, not allow them to demand a trade AND dictate where they’re willing to go.

He says if this becomes a bigger problem, the NHL may have to address it with the Players’ Association

The Larkin list of teams he is willing to go to is becoming a meme. All teams with basically $0 of cap space

[Updated on: Thu, 01 October 2026 23:26]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853202 is a reply to message #852935 ]	Fri, 02 October 2026 11:30

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 27 August 2026 14:57

Word is he's requested a trade.
We should be all over that. Cost would be high, but it'd be worth it imo.

Nothing like dealing from a position of weakness but the Oilers still need him and it’d still be worth it.

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Re: Helle wants out of Winny? [message #853205 is a reply to message #853202 ]	Fri, 02 October 2026 12:27

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Wyntermute wrote on Fri, 02 October 2026 11:30

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 27 August 2026 14:57

Word is he's requested a trade.
We should be all over that. Cost would be high, but it'd be worth it imo.

Nothing like dealing from a position of weakness but the Oilers still need him and it’d still be worth it.

Both our goalies played like trash. Howards stock keeps falling and he can't get a sniff of offensive opportunity. Media just assumes we are already contenders so our 1st round picks will be viewed as 25-30th in a trade.

Honestly wonder what the price would start at for us to get Helle would be for us. Of course not accounting for him actually being willing to come here or not.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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