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NZ Oiler Fan  is currently offline NZ Oiler Fan
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1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852954 is a reply to message #852953 ]
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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852955 is a reply to message #852954 ]
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JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852956 is a reply to message #852955 ]
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Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:49

JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.


I'm all for people being given second chances, and whilst I'm probably older than most who post in here I grew up in an era when the moral compass was a bit wonky and wouldn't be accurate.

The Oilers have a history of second chances and MacT is one of the earliest ones I can recall, and whilst we may remember MacT more for what he's done off the ice for the Oilers than on it, in today's climate he'd probably would never have skated in the NHL again.

We come closer to today, and we've got the aforementioned Perry and Kane and up to today both our coach and GM have been under investigation and suspended for issues. So it's clear that we are happy to be home for those in need of a second chance, but for some things you are extremely lucky to get that second chance and that includes being found not guilty of said issue.

The Oilers haven't ventured into the PWHL yet, but if we had a team no matter what the result of the case was, do you think the women playing on that team would want Formenton in the same club as them??

I'll say the same thing I said when we appointed Babcock, I'll cheer the Oilers on, I want the Oilers to win the cup, but I'm unhappy with his appointment and again I'm unhappy about this signing. Suffice to say, I won't be getting up in the middle of night here in the UK, to watch match 37 of an 84 game season like I used to. This club has this summer tarnished itself a little to much for me.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852957 is a reply to message #852956 ]
Wed, 09 September 2026 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leia wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 11:21

Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:49

JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.

The Oilers haven't ventured into the PWHL yet, but if we had a team no matter what the result of the case was, do you think the women playing on that team would want Formenton in the same club as them??


Why would the imaginary opinion of imaginary PWHL players matter? Because they are (imaginary) women?

Would the Oilers players get to have a say on who was allowed to play on this PWHL team based on how they feel about each players sexual history? Maybe they should get to weigh in on weather or not "EM" should be allowed to work at her current job.

Then again she likely doesn't need to work much. You know because of the massive settlement she received for cheating on her bf with a bunch of hockey players and lying about it.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852959 is a reply to message #852957 ]
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Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 11:38

Leia wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 11:21

Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:49

JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.

The Oilers haven't ventured into the PWHL yet, but if we had a team no matter what the result of the case was, do you think the women playing on that team would want Formenton in the same club as them??


Why would the imaginary opinion of imaginary PWHL players matter? Because they are (imaginary) women?

Would the Oilers players get to have a say on who was allowed to play on this PWHL team based on how they feel about each players sexual history? Maybe they should get to weigh in on weather or not "EM" should be allowed to work at her current job.

Then again she likely doesn't need to work much. You know because of the massive settlement she received for cheating on her bf with a bunch of hockey players and lying about it.


Different sport for one, but when Mason Greenwood's case collapsed against him (go look it up, rather than me saying in here), he was still suspended by Manchester United, after a review post the collapsed case and discussions within the club which included women's team players he was told he wasn't coming back to the club and would be sold. His next clubs fans objected to him joining them for what happened and even though he did exceptionally well, he's been sold again which has rid the club of the issues he brings.

One of the obvious reasons why the women's team were asked at United, and I'm sure had the Oilers had a PWHL team would of, is if they feel safe and comfortable with Greenwood/Formenton within the club, as the club has a duty of care and responsibility to it's players and other employee's. The fact we haven't got a women's team shouldn't the issue here, hopefully the other female Oiler employee's have had an input into how they feel about this.

Right now, it has to be presumed they have and they've been given the green light to employ him. Unless anything comes out after today, we have to put up with it. As I said originally, this takes a bit of shine off the club for me, but they are still my team.



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to the place where I belong
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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852960 is a reply to message #852957 ]
Wed, 09 September 2026 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 11:38

Leia wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 11:21

Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:49

JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.

The Oilers haven't ventured into the PWHL yet, but if we had a team no matter what the result of the case was, do you think the women playing on that team would want Formenton in the same club as them??


Why would the imaginary opinion of imaginary PWHL players matter? Because they are (imaginary) women?

Would the Oilers players get to have a say on who was allowed to play on this PWHL team based on how they feel about each players sexual history? Maybe they should get to weigh in on weather or not "EM" should be allowed to work at her current job.

Then again she likely doesn't need to work much. You know because of the massive settlement she received for cheating on her bf with a bunch of hockey players and lying about it.


Now that we've had the incel opinion heard from and out of the way, let's think about this from a few other viewpoints:

1) Fellow incel David Staples will repeatedly urge people to read the judge's summation on the trial and why the Hockey Canada guys got off. I'd argue if you want to understand character of these folks, you should look at the actual transcripts of all the testimony, because it shows that whether there's enough for a criminal conviction or not, there's AT BEST some extremely iffy judgement on display, and for a few of the players, some lack of morals shown. From a moral point of view, this is a bad decision by the team.

2) This isn't likely to do much for the team's likeability with fans. The team should be conscious of that because we are looking down the barrel of a future without McDavid and without being one of the top teams in the league. If we get there, we're going to see significant drop in interest so finding new ways to ostracize fans, such as taking on players with reprehensible moral records, isn't a great idea. From a business point of view, this is a risky signing at best.

3) There may be some cases in which you can look at the moral and business side and say that you understand all that, but Player X is too good and winning now is too important to let those override. There's an argument you could make with the potential impending departure of McDavid that you NEED to win now, so if a player is one who helps you win, then you may want to overlook some of the other complications. You could potentially have used that to justify Evander Kane, although his demons included being a bit of a locker room issue and he ultimately got to the point where he was a distraction here for some of the reasons that were predictable when he was brought in.

But let's have a quick look at Formenton. He hasn't been in the NHL for 4 years - before that he only played in 109 games over four seasons, picking up 39 points. Last year in the Swiss league, he had 23 points in 42 games - good enough to be the 5th highest scorer on his team behind Chris DiDomenico (27 Career NHL games, 10 pts), Michael Joly (0 NHL games), Dominic Zwerger (0 NHL games) and Jesse Virtanen (0 NHL points) (no relation as far as I can tell to other Oilers misadventure Jake Virtanen).

Like with Jake Virtanen, this is one where the upside is so low that it doesn't really make any sense to override the other concerns in order to bring this guy in. What is it about this player that makes him seem like any kind of good bet? He's potentially going to get booed at home (I mean, I certainly will boo him, for sure in pre-season) and the team is going to get crucified on social media and around the league for this decision and for what? He's not even a good player.

And if you want a forward, there's a ton of them still available. Marcus Johansson had 49 points for the Wild last year. Vlad Tarasenko had 47 points and has had a great career. David Perron put up 28 points last year, and might come fairly cheap at age 38. Michael Bunting, James Van Reimsdyk, Tyson Jost, Philip Kurashev. Reilly Smith. None of those are top line guys but most of them would bring more than Formenton without any of the baggage. It's just a bizarre decision by the team.

It's a bad hockey decision, it's a bad business decision, and it's a bad moral decision. The only people who will celebrate this are the incels like David Staples and Jay who think that it's immediately good, only because it annoys anyone with any kind of non-caveman point of view.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852962 is a reply to message #852955 ]
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Jay wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:49

JPro wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 10:08

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 09 September 2026 09:56

1 year, 850k.
We do love our reclamation projects don't we?

At least the first two swings at the garbage tree were actually good at hockey with Perry and Kane. Are Bowman, Babcock and Formenton even good at their jobs? Real diminishing returns here as we keep going back to the scumbag well.

Excellent PR moves; very good for the Oilers brand. Such a well respected organization we have here as we head into the final full year of the McDavid era.

I have some tough news for you.

Other athletes and celebrities in their teens/20s with insane amounts of celebrity/access/money have done similar things. Doesn't make it right or wrong but you should probably stop watching sports if that's your line in the sand.

Babcock was/is treated the way he has been because he was mean to "journalists" in Toronto. Nothing more.

Kane did nothing wrong. No idea what happened with Perry but humans do dumb things sometimes and I couldn't care less if a hockey player got drunk and said something inappropriate.

As for is this player any good - fair question and I don't think anyone really knows but I guess we will find out. Scored 18 goals in the NHL and is 6'3. That's something.


I am well aware that young people behave badly with money. I don't really care on a personal level.

The point is that the Oilers manage to pickup all the ones that have horribly toxic public images.

I have some tough news for you: that is not good for the franchise no matter which way you want to justify it. It's very short term thinking in this world where image and brand matters.



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 Re: Oilers sign Alex Formenton [message #852963 is a reply to message #852953 ]
Wed, 09 September 2026 16:29 Go to previous message
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5 SHG his last season before his career got derailed by his past actions. Imagine he will be a PK regular. His offensive game was just starting to break out as well. In spite of being good on the PK, he struggled defensively 5v5. Guess not that uncommon, being good at structured defence, but can't quite handle the chaos of 5v5. Was still a young guy figuring stuff out when his career shut down.

Let's see how badly he wants to get his crap together again. Could be a crazy bargain deal.

[Updated on: Wed, 09 September 2026 16:39]


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