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Mike Babcock [message #852561]	Mon, 15 June 2026 14:15

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Figure this man needs his own thread

Since the league put the ball in our court to show our seriousness about hiring him before officially starting their investigation, I guess this is a clear sign we REALLY want Babcock to coach our team:

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
NHL to officially begin investigation in to Mike Babcock’s 2023 Columbus resignation.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-officially-opens-mi ke-babcock-investigation/

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One of the initial challenges here is that some Blue Jackets players and staff members from back then initially indicated they had no desire to re-live what happened three years ago and didn’t want to participate. So we will see how the investigation handles that, or if anyone moves past that reluctance.

Several agents of Edmonton players who were not involved the in direct conversations with Babcock also voiced concerns, adding they didn’t like the idea of clients being traded there, either.

The Oilers appear willing to wait to see the conclusions of this investigation before ruling out Babcock as a contender. Now that the playoffs are over, there is also Vegas’s decision on Cassidy. Will they grant permission for the Oilers, or anyone else, to talk to him?

Right now, the only other opening is Toronto.

Lots of media speculation that Katz is the driving force behind wanting Babcock, which makes perfect sense really. Katz's time hanging out with Kevin Lowe and the Olympic Hockey Canada crews in the 2000's has been the inspiration of many of our management hires since Katz bought the team. Babcock was the star coach of that period. Really, Katz's entire time as owner has been chasing the shadow of the 2010/2014 Canada Olympic teams. Nicholson, Lowe, Holland, Chiarelli, Tambo. We've almost collected the whole set, just the coach left. Yzerman and Armstrong the only guys missing, but doubt they shake loose for Katz.

[Updated on: Mon, 15 June 2026 16:51]

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852563 is a reply to message #852561 ]	Mon, 15 June 2026 16:23

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So Babcock actually emotionally scarred people from what he was doing, and some Oilers are "yeah, we want some of that!" and others are looking for the door.

Grrrrrrreeeeeeaaaat.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852566 is a reply to message #852561 ]	Tue, 16 June 2026 09:23

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What a colossal failure for this organization to be exploring this path:

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Several agents of Edmonton players who were not involved in the direct conversations with Babcock also voiced concerns, adding they didn’t like the idea of clients being traded there, either,” writes Friedman

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“The union, in particular, reacted negatively, and there were multiple conversations where it voiced objection,” Friedman continued.

https://oilersnation.com/news/oilers-player-agents-concerned -as-nhl-begins-babcock-investigation

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Analyst Jason Gregor also highlighted the growing unease. He shared a text from an NHL player agent, who said, “The opportunity to play with McDavid or Draisaitl is diminished with the potential to be coached by Babcock. It is a valid concern voiced to me by a few of my clients.”

https://x.com/JasonGregor/status/2066658740489863389

Like, what are they doing? As if it isn't hard enough to get players to come here. And when you have no pipeline of talent in your system, free agency is you only lifeline to revamping your roster. What a joke of a franchise.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852568 is a reply to message #852566 ]	Tue, 16 June 2026 10:37

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This has Katz's hands all over it. In no effing world would any GM or POHO bring in a guy with Bab's reputation. This literally makes no sense, and I can't see Bowman being THIS dumb. We want a coach with a great reputation, like Cooper, Bednar or Brind'Amour... and I get that those guys aren't available presently. But BABCOCK? JFC.

If they bring him onboard, this franchise is cooked for the next 10 years. No FAs, no pipeline, stars will want out... they'll be starting from scratch. Berube would be a better fit than Babcock, if you can't get Cassidy.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852572 is a reply to message #852568 ]	Wed, 17 June 2026 00:02

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HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 16 June 2026 09:37

This has Katz's hands all over it. In no effing world would any GM or POHO bring in a guy with Bab's reputation. This literally makes no sense, and I can't see Bowman being THIS dumb. We want a coach with a great reputation, like Cooper, Bednar or Brind'Amour... and I get that those guys aren't available presently. But BABCOCK? JFC.

If they bring him onboard, this franchise is cooked for the next 10 years. No FAs, no pipeline, stars will want out... they'll be starting from scratch. Berube would be a better fit than Babcock, if you can't get Cassidy.

I honestly think Katz is so detached from reality atleast in hockey terms. He thinks just because he thinks it's a good idea he can edict and manifest it, but the track record ain't there. There's been stretches where the hockey club seems to slowly find some cohesion, and then all the sudden we get these earthshaking decisions that send everything sideways.

Like McDavid said, two years ago was the best Oilers team we've had in generations. And out of left field the man who was slowly putting pieces in place Holland is gone, replaced by player agent (w.t.f) JJ, who then brings in hockey outcast Bowman... seriously w.t.f. And from there we've bled the good mid/low tier NHLers that helped us be good to where we are two seasons later lucky if we make the playoffs.

Just like Babcock, the hockey world was done with Bowman, but for some unexplained reason the Oilers/Katz takes a shovel to the cemetary to open that sealed grave expecting gold.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852603 is a reply to message #852568 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 13:53

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HamBlaster wrote on Tue, 16 June 2026 10:37

If they bring him onboard, this franchise is cooked for the next 10 years.

Why only 10? I'd say at least a 100 years!

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852567 is a reply to message #852561 ]	Tue, 16 June 2026 09:26

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Fully expect Ingram, Kapanen, Murphy, and Roslovic to all sign elsewhere if this happens.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852577 is a reply to message #852567 ]	Wed, 17 June 2026 12:11

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fwiw, I don't think Roslovic is re-signing here no matter who the new coach is. He'll get a bigger long-term contract elsewhere. The other three will be the litmus test.

Gong show. Avoidable disaster. Insert other depressing moniker - this summer has gotten off to as bad a start as possible (with the exception that neither Florida nor Vegas won the Cup).

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852584 is a reply to message #852577 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 07:50

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If we're not getting Cassidy I'd reach out to Gallant. He was asked about coaching in Toronto, and he mentioned that he'd be interested in coaching a Canadian team, so presumably he's over his health scare that he had in Russia. I'd certainly take him over Babcock or Torts.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852585 is a reply to message #852584 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 08:15

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 07:50

If we're not getting Cassidy I'd reach out to Gallant. He was asked about coaching in Toronto, and he mentioned that he'd be interested in coaching a Canadian team, so presumably he's over his health scare that he had in Russia. I'd certainly take him over Babcock or Torts.

Think at the minimum Katz and his group want a coach that will be tough and demanding of players now. Knob was the ultimate pushover, country club style of coach. Right or wrong, they want a 180 degree swing from that. Galant is another "go have fun boys" kind of coach. Probably more likely we would get Berube than him.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852586 is a reply to message #852585 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 08:53

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 08:15

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 07:50

If we're not getting Cassidy I'd reach out to Gallant. He was asked about coaching in Toronto, and he mentioned that he'd be interested in coaching a Canadian team, so presumably he's over his health scare that he had in Russia. I'd certainly take him over Babcock or Torts.

Think at the minimum Katz and his group want a coach that will be tough and demanding of players now. Knob was the ultimate pushover, country club style of coach. Right or wrong, they want a 180 degree swing from that. Galant is another "go have fun boys" kind of coach. Probably more likely we would get Berube than him.

Have to think July 1 is difficult for the Oilers if even the spectre of Babcock is hanging over the team. They really have to get their act together here soon.

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852587 is a reply to message #852586 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 10:07

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Re: Mike Babcock [message #852588 is a reply to message #852587 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 10:13

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 12:07

Is Barry Trotz available

I didn't think Trotz wanted to coach anymore.

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Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852589 is a reply to message #852561 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 10:52

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Here we go

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
NHL is clearing is Mike Babcock to coach the Edmonton Oilers.

They are free to hire him

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852590 is a reply to message #852589 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 10:56

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Fuuuuu..

I mean... what else can this tire fire of an organization do?

Bullying is okay I guess and the optics are just perfect.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852591 is a reply to message #852590 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:06

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Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 10:56

Fuuuuu..

I mean... what else can this tire fire of an organization do?

Bullying is okay I guess and the optics are just perfect.

Good god. We couldn’t even be saved by the PA. Maybe the team has had the sense to listen as agents have said how much they don’t want their players subjected to that clown and former players talked about what an awful person he is and maybe the team will be smart and go a different route.

But I doubt it.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852592 is a reply to message #852591 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:11

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Adam wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 11:06

Rocksteady wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 10:56

Fuuuuu..

I mean... what else can this tire fire of an organization do?

Bullying is okay I guess and the optics are just perfect.

Good god. We couldn’t even be saved by the PA. Maybe the team has had the sense to listen as agents have said how much they don’t want their players subjected to that clown and former players talked about what an awful person he is and maybe the team will be smart and go a different route.

But I doubt it.

Lots of talk about how Katz was super angry about how this season went. If Katz has been hellbent on a coach that will be hard on players and hold them accountable, I guess this means that Katz has decided to blame the players for how the year went, and Knob for being too easy on them.

Katz probably has learned absolutely nothing from his >decade of terrible management hires.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852593 is a reply to message #852589 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:15

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NHL statement:

NHL News @PuckReportNHL
NHL STATEMENT ON MIKE BABCOCK

The League has completed its review of Mike Babcock’s tenure in Columbus, and of certain alleged conduct associated therewith.

Our investigation has concluded that, even in a light least favorable to Mr. Babcock, there is no current basis to restrict his employment in the League.

Some speculation that Laine was the source of some of the big complaints that were never made public. No doubt Laine is the kind of player/personality that Babcock would rip into mercilessly.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852594 is a reply to message #852593 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:18

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Like I have said many times before. He is coming to Edmonton, whether people like it or not. Not too sure what to expect from him. I don’t even think I like him personally, but I just hope he is the guy that can finally win us a Stanley Cup.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852595 is a reply to message #852593 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:29

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NHLPA statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HLHNQSRWAAAUJJ5?format=jpg&name=small

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852596 is a reply to message #852595 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 11:58

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Translation: We in no way endorse this coach, but legally, we cannot stop him from working.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852597 is a reply to message #852593 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 12:06

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 10:15

NHL statement:

NHL News @PuckReportNHL
NHL STATEMENT ON MIKE BABCOCK

The League has completed its review of Mike Babcock’s tenure in Columbus, and of certain alleged conduct associated therewith.

Our investigation has concluded that, even in a light least favorable to Mr. Babcock, there is no current basis to restrict his employment in the League.

Some speculation that Laine was the source of some of the big complaints that were never made public. No doubt Laine is the kind of player/personality that Babcock would rip into mercilessly.

If the source was Laine then I take it with a few grains of salt.. the guy is a flake.. I likable flake.. but still a flake.. that has/had talent but doesn't/can't apply it in a game anymore.. I don't even think the Fins have used him on their national team for a while..

I suspect we'll get the announcement.. then hire of an assistant .. speculation is LA's ex- (Interim) HC DJ Smith .. know nothing about him.. was Ottawa HC for 5 years. Leafs assistant coach for 4 (under Babcock before being hired as Ottawa HC) ..

Might help.. Smith's knowledge of the Pacific division and current league rosters/players should be a positive..

[Updated on: Thu, 18 June 2026 12:24]

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852599 is a reply to message #852597 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 12:25

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 12:06

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 10:15

NHL statement:

NHL News @PuckReportNHL
NHL STATEMENT ON MIKE BABCOCK

The League has completed its review of Mike Babcock’s tenure in Columbus, and of certain alleged conduct associated therewith.

Our investigation has concluded that, even in a light least favorable to Mr. Babcock, there is no current basis to restrict his employment in the League.

Some speculation that Laine was the source of some of the big complaints that were never made public. No doubt Laine is the kind of player/personality that Babcock would rip into mercilessly.

If the source was Laine then I take it with a few grains of salt.. the guy is a flake.. I likable flake.. but still a flake.. that has/had talent but doesn't/can't apply it in a game anymore.. I don't even think the Fins have used him on their national team for a while..

I suspect we'll get the announcement.. then hire of an assistant .. speculation is LA's ex- (Interim) HC DJ Smith .. know nothing about him.. was Ottawa HC for 5 years. Leafs assistant coach for 4 (under Babcock before being hired as Ottawa HC) ..

Might help.. Smith's knowledge of the Pacific division and current league rosters/players should be a positive..

There was some talk of Puljujarvi wanting back in the NHL. I think this solidifies he will not be comingg back to Edmonton icon_wink

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852600 is a reply to message #852599 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 12:39

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 11:25

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 12:06

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 10:15

NHL statement:

NHL News @PuckReportNHL
NHL STATEMENT ON MIKE BABCOCK

The League has completed its review of Mike Babcock’s tenure in Columbus, and of certain alleged conduct associated therewith.

Our investigation has concluded that, even in a light least favorable to Mr. Babcock, there is no current basis to restrict his employment in the League.

Some speculation that Laine was the source of some of the big complaints that were never made public. No doubt Laine is the kind of player/personality that Babcock would rip into mercilessly.

If the source was Laine then I take it with a few grains of salt.. the guy is a flake.. I likable flake.. but still a flake.. that has/had talent but doesn't/can't apply it in a game anymore.. I don't even think the Fins have used him on their national team for a while..

I suspect we'll get the announcement.. then hire of an assistant .. speculation is LA's ex- (Interim) HC DJ Smith .. know nothing about him.. was Ottawa HC for 5 years. Leafs assistant coach for 4 (under Babcock before being hired as Ottawa HC) ..

Might help.. Smith's knowledge of the Pacific division and current league rosters/players should be a positive..

There was some talk of Puljujarvi wanting back in the NHL. I think this solidifies he will not be comingg back to Edmonton icon_wink

icon_wink

I love Pulju! .. just couldn't play NHL hockey.. what a lesson in draft assesment that year.. man what cudda been.. all set in motion because the Fin GM passed on the top Fin (ranked top 3) in the draft .. which was the tell .. we were like " .. what they passed?.. no way.. what a mistake! " .. instead of "hey.. wait a sec.. why'd they..?"

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852601 is a reply to message #852589 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 12:41

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Katz party time with Lowe and Bobby Burgers early next week

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Sounds like final details on a contract are being nailed down, but barring a last minute rush wouldn’t expect a press conference in Edmonton until early next week for Babcock.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852602 is a reply to message #852601 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 13:50

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Lol Sooooo the whole investigation turned up nothing? This was all just a ridiculous side show and an excuse for people to virtue signal? Just like I said.

A few high profile current and former players made an entire brand out of being victimised by some mean things a hockey coach said to them. I'm shedding a tear right now for Mike modano and Patrick Laine. I hope they can overcome this trauma.

And the media - particularly tools like Jason gregor ran with the story and Oilers fans by and large gobbled it up and bought the big bad mike babcock narrative hook line and sinker.

Anyway we will see if he's actually still a good coach or not but this whole thing about how he's the worst person in the world because he called fat Mike Commodore fat was always hilarious.

Although I will say they probably aren't going be signing Noah Gregor anytime soon so that will be tough to overcome.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852604 is a reply to message #852602 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 14:17

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Jay wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 13:50

Lol Sooooo the whole investigation turned up nothing? This was all just a ridiculous side show and an excuse for people to virtue signal? Just like I said.

A few high profile current and former players made an entire brand out of being victimised by some mean things a hockey coach said to them. I'm shedding a tear right now for Mike modano and Patrick Laine. I hope they can overcome this trauma.

And the media - particularly tools like Jason gregor ran with the story and Oilers fans by and large gobbled it up and bought the big bad mike babcock narrative hook line and sinker.

Anyway we will see if he's actually still a good coach or not but this whole thing about how he's the worst person in the world because he called fat Mike Commodore fat was always hilarious.

Although I will say they probably aren't going be signing Noah Gregor anytime soon so that will be tough to overcome.

I think the truth likely lies in the middle. It seems like people want to believe there are only two types of people. Soft and "men", who need to suck it up. Babcock may be able to coach in the NHL, but he better adapt. What people now call 'snowflakes' are on every roster. Regardless of what people label them, the coach needs to work with what he has in front of them. This is on Babcock to adapt or be left behind.

To be fair, this rhetoric is as old as time. We are way softer than our forefathers, but we also live longer and for the most part are happier.

Babcock will age out like Don Cherry if he does not dummy up. FWIW, Babs is a jerk. Met him numerous times and if you are not someone that helps him get something, then you are a pleb and he talks down to you like you are worthless. He had a cabin near my place and believed his own hype. Mixed emotions. I love this team and want success, but want Babcock to eat half his last name.

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852606 is a reply to message #852604 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 14:54

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inverno76 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 14:17

Jay wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 13:50

Lol Sooooo the whole investigation turned up nothing? This was all just a ridiculous side show and an excuse for people to virtue signal? Just like I said.

A few high profile current and former players made an entire brand out of being victimised by some mean things a hockey coach said to them. I'm shedding a tear right now for Mike modano and Patrick Laine. I hope they can overcome this trauma.

And the media - particularly tools like Jason gregor ran with the story and Oilers fans by and large gobbled it up and bought the big bad mike babcock narrative hook line and sinker.

Anyway we will see if he's actually still a good coach or not but this whole thing about how he's the worst person in the world because he called fat Mike Commodore fat was always hilarious.

Although I will say they probably aren't going be signing Noah Gregor anytime soon so that will be tough to overcome.

I think the truth likely lies in the middle. It seems like people want to believe there are only two types of people. Soft and "men", who need to suck it up. Babcock may be able to coach in the NHL, but he better adapt. What people now call 'snowflakes' are on every roster. Regardless of what people label them, the coach needs to work with what he has in front of them. This is on Babcock to adapt or be left behind.

To be fair, this rhetoric is as old as time. We are way softer than our forefathers, but we also live longer and for the most part are happier.

Babcock will age out like Don Cherry if he does not dummy up. FWIW, Babs is a jerk. Met him numerous times and if you are not someone that helps him get something, then you are a pleb and he talks down to you like you are worthless. He had a cabin near my place and believed his own hype. Mixed emotions. I love this team and want success, but want Babcock to eat half his last name.

General rule of life. Anyone that talks about themselves in the third person is an egotistical a-hole.

Funniest was his 2015 interview before he moved on from the Red Wings. Can't find the video, only some quotes:

Mike talking about Mike:

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"I’ll tell you, my head’s spinning. I’ve learned a ton about Mike. This has been a fascinating process for Mike. But it’s also a hard process because you are dealing with people's lives and franchises."

"Mike Babcock has to decide what is best for his family and what challenge makes him the most excited to get out of bed in the morning. Detroit has been great to Mike. Kenny [Holland] has been great to Mike. So we are going to lay it all out, and by May 20th, I'm gonna know what I'm doing."

[Updated on: Thu, 18 June 2026 15:15]

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Re: Mike Babcock - Cleared by NHL to coach again [message #852608 is a reply to message #852606 ]	Thu, 18 June 2026 16:17

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[quote title=Kr55 wrote on Thu, 18 June 2026 14:54]Mike talking about Mike:

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"I’ll tell you, my head’s spinning. I’ve learned a ton about Mike. This has been a fascinating process for Mike. But it’s also a hard process because you are dealing with people's lives and franchises."

...

Get ready to plug your ears..

https://youtu.be/Q8FOPfXBWiQ?t=51

...as soon I posted this I knew I did the wrong thing.

[Updated on: Thu, 18 June 2026 16:20]

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

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