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| Jay wrote on Wed, 13 May 2026 21:19 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 13 May 2026 21:13 |
Kulak series winning goal in OT. lol. Hope Katz saw that.
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I'm just glad the Oilers and their brilliant management found a way to unload such a useless player and his boat anchor 2.75M salary! Not like they could have used a proven playoff performer d-man anyway.
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Hey. Sacrifices had to be make to acquire a crappier more expensive longer term version of Stuart Skinner! Along with tossing in a 2nd round pick.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
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Skookum Jim
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 13 May 2026 20:13 |
Kulak series winning goal in OT. lol. Hope Katz saw that.
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U n b e l i e v a b l e.. 
Bowman .. 
Kulak - nope
Broberg - nope
Holloway - nope
Mangiapane - 👍🏻
Fred - 👍🏻
Walman - 👍🏻
Arvidson - 👍🏻
Skinner - 👍🏻
Henrique - 👍🏻
[Updated on: Wed, 13 May 2026 23:32]
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Skookum Jim
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Carter Hart doing pretty well in the playoffs.. not bad for being out of hockey for a few years.. saving Vegas's butt..
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inverno76
Messages: 2578
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 May 2026 22:11 |
Carter Hart doing pretty well in the playoffs.. not bad for being out of hockey for a few years.. saving Vegas's butt..
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Screw Hart. Screw Vegas.
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Kr55
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Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 09:09 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 May 2026 22:11 |
Carter Hart doing pretty well in the playoffs.. not bad for being out of hockey for a few years.. saving Vegas's butt..
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Screw Hart. Screw Vegas.
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Hart is playing for his entire future in the NHL. Definitely get the motivation. I hope he gets completely blown away by Colorado to put a stain on his finish this season. Pacific division was truly a pillow fight. We made the ducks look way better than they actually are by basically playing no defense. Time for some real competition for Vegas.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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inverno76
Messages: 2578
Registered: September 2005
Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchew...
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| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 10:07 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 09:09 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 May 2026 22:11 |
Carter Hart doing pretty well in the playoffs.. not bad for being out of hockey for a few years.. saving Vegas's butt..
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Screw Hart. Screw Vegas.
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Hart is playing for his entire future in the NHL. Definitely get the motivation. I hope he gets completely blown away by Colorado to put a stain on his finish this season. Pacific division was truly a pillow fight. We made the ducks look way better than they actually are by basically playing no defense. Time for some real competition for Vegas.
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I do believe our injuries were a factor as well. The Oilers never even looked average during that series. This team, if healthy, should have beaten the Ducks and would have pushed Vegas in a series, and then the Av's would have steamrolled us in 4.
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 11:57 |
| Kr55 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 10:07 |
| inverno76 wrote on Fri, 15 May 2026 09:09 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 14 May 2026 22:11 |
Carter Hart doing pretty well in the playoffs.. not bad for being out of hockey for a few years.. saving Vegas's butt..
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Screw Hart. Screw Vegas.
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Hart is playing for his entire future in the NHL. Definitely get the motivation. I hope he gets completely blown away by Colorado to put a stain on his finish this season. Pacific division was truly a pillow fight. We made the ducks look way better than they actually are by basically playing no defense. Time for some real competition for Vegas.
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I do believe our injuries were a factor as well. The Oilers never even looked average during that series. This team, if healthy, should have beaten the Ducks and would have pushed Vegas in a series, and then the Av's would have steamrolled us in 4.
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Yeah, if McDavid's was going, we probably still outscore our defensive issues.
I couldn't see us passing Colorado or Minny. We would have needed to pray for Dallas to somehow make it to the conference finals again and look totally inept offensively to help us out, but they did it against Minny already.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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So, Vegas took their belief they should get special treatment a bit too far.
They were outraged that McNabb would get a 1 game suspension for a blatant interference play that caused an injury. So outraged that Torts decided he doesn't need to do his media appearances, even for the end of a series.
100k fine and loss of Vegas's 2nd round pick in 2026 came down as the punishment.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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Funny stat. The oilers are paying Jack Campbell and Jarry more cap than the combined cap hit of all the playoffs final 4 starting goalies.
We better figure out goaltending one of these days. There is some randomness, but our 2 expensive guys had huge red flags before we picked them up.
The combined salaries of the four likely starting goaltenders in the conference finals is $7.215M
$965K - Dobes
$2.75M - Andersen
$2.00M - Hart
$1.50M - Wedgewood
Jarry+Campbell = 7.68M
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 6173
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 19 May 2026 08:05 |
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The combined salaries of the four likely starting goaltenders in the conference finals is $7.215M
$965K - Dobes
$2.75M - Andersen
$2.00M - Hart
$1.50M - Wedgewood
Jarry+Campbell = 7.68M
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That right there is just solid management.. thanks Stanley! 👍🏻
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 6173
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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Vegas beats Avs without Makar.. Avs seemed to take a while to get rolling.. too much rust.. plus Hart is better than what Avs have.
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 21:37 |
Vegas beats Avs without Makar.. Avs seemed to take a while to get rolling.. too much rust.. plus Hart is better than what Avs have.
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Ugh, bad news. Think Carter Hart has not depended on Dustin Schwartz for some time now. He has his own sports psychologist John Stevenson and he works with the Shane Clifford goaltending group.
I was hoping Schwartz powers would sink Vegas, but seems like only the Oilers love true Dustin Schwartz goalies.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 6173
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 20:57 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 21:37 |
Vegas beats Avs without Makar.. Avs seemed to take a while to get rolling.. too much rust.. plus Hart is better than what Avs have.
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Ugh, bad news. Think Carter Hart has not depended on Dustin Schwartz for some time now. He has his own sports psychologist John Stevenson and he works with the Shane Clifford goaltending group.
I was hoping Schwartz powers would sink Vegas, but seems like only the Oilers love true Dustin Schwartz goalies.
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Thats interesting.. as a franchise owner you think you'd be able to have a say in what goaltending coaches your player's should use.. I'm not sure who else is out there for independant goalie coaching but Vdar on Philly said he went to a new guy over last summer (not sure if he's independant or the team coach) to help with his lateral movement across the net.. vast improvement and had a stellar season.. so it is possible for the right coaching can make a big difference.
Oilers (its been mentioned here before) should have its own GOALIE DEPARTMENT .. c/w PERFORMANCE LABORATORY .. the money spent would NOT be included in the team cap..
If you have a goalie on a long term expensive contract that has a lot of technical faults.. best solution is to do whatever you can to remove the faults .. a lot less expensive in draft pick and prospect assets to develope your own star goalie.. than trying to pry loose someone elses.. or signing one in free agency..
While your're at it, I'd also have a SKATING Department c/w Performance/Analytics Laboratory ..
Speed kills.. every player on the roster should have their skating evaluated and analyzed for efficiency .. edge application, stride pattern, strength .. there are a lot of physics involved in a simple skating stride.. which can be quantified.. and hopefully modified and corrected..
If you can't draft high enough to get the players with the top percentile speed.. draft for best player available and then "make" him fast.. and .. make your existing roster palyers faster as well. .. everyone goes through it.. even McDavid :) .. actually what you'd do is model McD's skating and then use it as a template to compare to the rest of the players.. each palyer gets personal skating drills to correct their own specific faults..
It's a thought anyway.. 
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 23:58 |
| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 20:57 |
| Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 20 May 2026 21:37 |
Vegas beats Avs without Makar.. Avs seemed to take a while to get rolling.. too much rust.. plus Hart is better than what Avs have.
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Ugh, bad news. Think Carter Hart has not depended on Dustin Schwartz for some time now. He has his own sports psychologist John Stevenson and he works with the Shane Clifford goaltending group.
I was hoping Schwartz powers would sink Vegas, but seems like only the Oilers love true Dustin Schwartz goalies.
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Thats interesting.. as a franchise owner you think you'd be able to have a say in what goaltending coaches your player's should use.. I'm not sure who else is out there for independant goalie coaching but Vdar on Philly said he went to a new guy over last summer (not sure if he's independant or the team coach) to help with his lateral movement across the net.. vast improvement and had a stellar season.. so it is possible for the right coaching can make a big difference.
Oilers (its been mentioned here before) should have its own GOALIE DEPARTMENT .. c/w PERFORMANCE LABORATORY .. the money spent would NOT be included in the team cap..
If you have a goalie on a long term expensive contract that has a lot of technical faults.. best solution is to do whatever you can to remove the faults .. a lot less expensive in draft pick and prospect assets to develope your own star goalie.. than trying to pry loose someone elses.. or signing one in free agency..
While your're at it, I'd also have a SKATING Department c/w Performance/Analytics Laboratory ..
Speed kills.. every player on the roster should have their skating evaluated and analyzed for efficiency .. edge application, stride pattern, strength .. there are a lot of physics involved in a simple skating stride.. which can be quantified.. and hopefully modified and corrected..
If you can't draft high enough to get the players with the top percentile speed.. draft for best player available and then "make" him fast.. and .. make your existing roster palyers faster as well. .. everyone goes through it.. even McDavid :) .. actually what you'd do is model McD's skating and then use it as a template to compare to the rest of the players.. each palyer gets personal skating drills to correct their own specific faults..
It's a thought anyway..
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Would guess there is a huge variety of ways that goalies handle their training. In-season teams probably have their own hired people working with your goalies. Maybe if the goalie is rich already and a big name he could have his own guy tag along too. I think Jack Campbell actually did that with us (a lot of help that did, lol). Mike Smith may have too. Not sure how much control you can really force on your athletes for how they handle training out of season.
Jarry for sure is well documented as coming back to Edmonton every summer to keep up with the legend Dustin Schwartz, while he really had no choice but to work with the Pens people in-season. THere is no such record for Carter Hart, I just always assumed that goalies Schwartz worked with in Junior ended up locked into whatever magic spiderweb that Schwartz catches people in, like our org that allowed him to survive half a dozen coach changes and almost as many GM changes.
Skinner of course had a double dose of Schwartz, all season long and summer, until an interruption this season with Schwartz fired from the team. Maybe he's right back with him now though :)
Seems Hart wisely moved on and picked his own people some time ago. Jarry really should be doing the same, but probably won't after over a decade of being in the Schwartz Club.
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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
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Location: Edmonton
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Both favorites lose game one.
How many Leafs fans heads would explode watching Marner vs Montreal in the finals? The only way out of max pain for Leafs fans would be the season being canceled at that point. They can all pray for more Hantavirus.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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Skookum Jim
Messages: 6173
Registered: March 2006
Location: Burnaby, BC
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| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2026 21:26 |
Both favorites lose game one.
How many Leafs fans heads would explode watching Marner vs Montreal in the finals? The only way out of max pain for Leafs fans would be the season being canceled at that point. They can all pray for more Hantavirus.
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Hey get with it man.. its Ebola now 
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Kr55
Messages: 12895
Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Fri, 22 May 2026 16:00 |
| Kr55 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2026 21:26 |
Both favorites lose game one.
How many Leafs fans heads would explode watching Marner vs Montreal in the finals? The only way out of max pain for Leafs fans would be the season being canceled at that point. They can all pray for more Hantavirus.
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Hey get with it man.. its Ebola now
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Leafs fans just running in every direction throwing feces at everyone to try to get the season cancelled.
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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halfafrog
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Registered: March 2006
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Didn't have Vegas going up 3-0 on my Bingo Card
So this is what hope feels like?
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Skookum Jim
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| halfafrog wrote on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:00 |
Didn't have Vegas going up 3-0 on my Bingo Card
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Carter Hart is the big story.. and difference.. this post season for Vegas.. its not that clown Tortarella.. Hart is a great goalie.. and Vegas got him for free.
I hope Vegas signs Torts long term for big.
Vegas's 3rd goal should have been a PP for Avs.. Kolasar knocks down Manson from behind at the blue line..takes him out of the play and gets a 2 on 1.. puts in the loose puck for the 3-3 tie.
That is peanlty all day every day.. everyone saw it created a clear out numbered scoring chance.. two refs ignore it.. both should be fired.
Makr is like 60%.. now McKinnon took a puck to the knee.. can barely skate .. looing like Vegas is going for the final.
Going to be some interesting questions asked, and decisions made, in Denver this post season..
They might be bidding on Cassidy as well.
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Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 24 May 2026 22:02 |
| halfafrog wrote on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:00 |
Didn't have Vegas going up 3-0 on my Bingo Card
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Carter Hart is the big story.. and difference.. this post season for Vegas.. its not that clown Tortarella.. Hart is a great goalie.. and Vegas got him for free.
I hope Vegas signs Torts long term for big.
Vegas's 3rd goal should have been a PP for Avs.. Kolasar knocks down Manson from behind at the blue line..takes him out of the play and gets a 2 on 1.. puts in the loose puck for the 3-3 tie.
That is peanlty all day every day.. everyone saw it created a clear out numbered scoring chance.. two refs ignore it.. both should be fired.
Makr is like 60%.. now McKinnon took a puck to the knee.. can barely skate .. looing like Vegas is going for the final.
Going to be some interesting questions asked, and decisions made, in Denver this post season..
They might be bidding on Cassidy as well.
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It's a shame Hart is such a pervert.
Here's hoping he falls on his face and blows the series for the Knights even still.
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JPro
Messages: 836
Registered: January 2006
Location: Edmonton
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| Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 24 May 2026 22:02 |
| halfafrog wrote on Sun, 24 May 2026 20:00 |
Didn't have Vegas going up 3-0 on my Bingo Card
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Carter Hart is the big story.. and difference.. this post season for Vegas.. its not that clown Tortarella.. Hart is a great goalie.. and Vegas got him for free.
I hope Vegas signs Torts long term for big.
Vegas's 3rd goal should have been a PP for Avs.. Kolasar knocks down Manson from behind at the blue line..takes him out of the play and gets a 2 on 1.. puts in the loose puck for the 3-3 tie.
That is peanlty all day every day.. everyone saw it created a clear out numbered scoring chance.. two refs ignore it.. both should be fired.
Makr is like 60%.. now McKinnon took a puck to the knee.. can barely skate .. looing like Vegas is going for the final.
Going to be some interesting questions asked, and decisions made, in Denver this post season..
They might be bidding on Cassidy as well.
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Vegas is an extremely well managed team. They play the heel and all, but there's no denying their ability to stay very competitive by making unpopular decisions. I would love to be managed by a creative group that can find ways to circumvent the cap and build banger after banger. I'm too lazy to do the research, but they gotta be the most (or close to) successful expansion team in recent pro sports history. Can't call it luck at this point.
It's funny how we'll cheer for a team that signs controversial players like Kane and Perry while hiring Bowman of all people to manage the team, but somehow turns its nose up at Carter Hart. It's laughable at this point.
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