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Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850548]	Wed, 04 March 2026 18:48

Daftmonk
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Location: Edmonton

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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/oilers-working-on-deal-to-acq uire-dickinson-from-blackhawks/

50% retained for Dickinson
2027 1st is top 12 protected

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850549 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 18:55

Suomalainen
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Location: Boulder, CO

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Well, at least I won't have to worry about wasting my early summer watching long playoff runs.

97.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850550 is a reply to message #850549 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 19:10

Skookum Jim
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Suomalainen wrote on Wed, 04 March 2026 17:55

Well, at least I won't have to worry about wasting my early summer watching long playoff runs.

Needed another D.. Walman and Nurse are tire fires.

Dickenson might help the 3C.. relegate Henrique out..
Colton Dach might be what Fred was supposed to be.

Who knows.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850551 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 19:15

Adam
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Three players with total of 35 points for a 1st, 2nd and Mangiapane. The pundits have been calling this a buyers market for the last 10 days with sellers potentially getting stuck with players they want to move and we panic, move first and pay a huge premium. What I wouldn’t give for competent management.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850552 is a reply to message #850551 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 19:23

Skookum Jim
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Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2026 18:15

Apparently Dickenson has the 2nd highest TOI vs. elites among NHL forwards .. if true it might help neutralize the other teams top lines and free up Leon and McD vs. the teams weaker lines.. of course Walman and Nurse might neutralize Dickenson's efforts.. so back to square one..

Dach is a mystery to me.. 6'-4" has skill and hits.. but its all about speed.. either have it or not..

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850553 is a reply to message #850551 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 19:26

Skookum Jim
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Adam wrote on Wed, 04 March 2026 18:15

The first rounder was the cost of failing to analyze your UFA signings properly..
We still have 3 boat anchor contracts left.. Nurse, Fred, and starting to look like Walman's as well.
Oilers should stay away from Free Agent frenzy.. go golfing.. plan a fishing trip.. with no phones or internet..

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850554 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 19:33

Skookum Jim
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Its a bad sign that Bowman's trades were all with Chicago.. he defaulted to player familiarity.. which might indicate the Oil scouting was less confident with their knowledge of other players league wide.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850555 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 20:04

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Don't like having to pay a 1st to get rid of a bad contract we just gave half a year ago. That's embarrassing.

And I don't like that the Oilers tuning out their coaches, or whatever the hell we're doing this year to not care about defense, has our GM obsessed about pure defensive players as his deadline adds. We needed to play the same level of defense we did last year, and add OFFENSIVE players for our next playoff run. We lost because we could not score outside of our top few guys. Our depth was completely useless. We should not be trying to fill brand new holes that the coaches and GM are clueless about how they were created.

[Updated on: Wed, 04 March 2026 20:35]

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850556 is a reply to message #850555 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 20:22

Adam
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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 04 March 2026 20:04

Don't like having to pay a 1st to get rid of a bad contract we just gave half a year ago. That's embarrassing.

And I don't like that the Oilers tuning out their coaches, or whatever the hell we're doing this year to not care about defense, as our GM obsessed about pure defensive players as his deadline adds. We needed to play the same level of defense we did last year, and add OFFENSIVE players for our next playoff run. We lost because we could not score outside of our top few guys. Our depth was completely useless. We should not be trying to fill brand new holes that the coaches and GM are clueless about how they were created.

I just keep going back to Florida picking up Marchand at 50% retention last year for a conditional 2nd rounder. There are ways to do better than this. The oilers just suck at it. And then if they get guys with any offence left in them like Marchand last year, we immediately find a way to kill that off entirely. Would love if we had a third line that could do more than simply try to survive.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850557 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 20:38

Kr55
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Location: Edmonton

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We better make the playoffs now too. Moving our 2027 first round pick makes our pick to SJ now an unprotected 2026 pick (if we missed and got a high pick SJ was going to get our 2027 pick instead)

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850558 is a reply to message #850557 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 21:29

Mike
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What the hell? Who negotiates for this team? boom

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850559 is a reply to message #850558 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 21:39

Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

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"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850563 is a reply to message #850558 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 05:19

Jay
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Mike wrote on Wed, 04 March 2026 21:29

What the hell? Who negotiates for this team? boom

Negotiate? Bowman already explained that he doesn't like getting "too cute" so he just gives whatever is asked.

"Initiative comes to thems that wait"

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850560 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Wed, 04 March 2026 22:20

Skookum Jim
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Location: Burnaby, BC

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Stan Bowman & Oilers this season:

TRADED AWAY:

2027 1st-Round Pick
2027 3rd-Round Pick
2028 2nd-Round Pick
2029 2nd-Round Pick
Stuart Skinner
Brett Kulak
Andrew Mangiapane

ADDED:

Spencer Stastney
Tristan Jarry
Samuel Poulin
Connor Murphy (2.125M retained)
Jason Dickinson (2.2M retained)
Colton Dach

[Updated on: Wed, 04 March 2026 22:22]

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850564 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 07:39

NetBOG
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Parts Unknown

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Just continually pissing away draft picks. Is there a hope either of these guys move the needle? Nope.

Just trading away assets because people scream “we’re in a window” without a second thought. I blame this on you moron fans.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850565 is a reply to message #850564 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 08:29

JPro
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Registered: January 2006
Location: Edmonton

No Cups

NetBOG wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 07:39

Just trading away assets because people scream “we’re in a window” without a second thought. I blame this on you moron fans.

Decades of mismanagement and this incompetent front office has you blaming the fans. Truly wild discourse around here these days. lmao

My irrational blame goes to McDavid. Sure, this team went to the finals two years in a row, but the Trent Frederic signing combined with running Skinner back for another year should have told McDavid everything he needed to know this summer about Bowman's hilariously bad approach to improving this team. Extending for two years incentivized the worst management group to make #boldmoves. When the savior is flying away from Edmonton for the last time, this team will be a wasteland of overpaid garbage hockey players on NMCs and completely bare cupboards.

What a shame.

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850566 is a reply to message #850565 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 08:32

Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

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JPro wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 08:29

NetBOG wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 07:39

Just trading away assets because people scream “we’re in a window” without a second thought. I blame this on you moron fans.

Decades of mismanagement and this incompetent front office has you blaming the fans. Truly wild discourse around here these days. lmao

Yeah, I've never heard any fan anywhere, especially not here, saying that this team was poorly managed.

We have all been cheering on Bobby Burgers, Chiarelli, Holland, JJ, Bowman, MacT, Tambo and the like the whole way through while they did super impressive management work.

We can only blame ourselves for these results.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850567 is a reply to message #850566 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 09:25

Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 08:32

100%. And really, none of us are NHL GMs, so who are we to criticize, right? That job is hard, stressful and probably underpaid!

This feels like panic to me, especially given the number of teams out of the playoff picture and then number of UFAs that they want to move on from and get something for. It's going to be really annoying when a more patient team gets better players for less closer to the deadline.

In a buyer's market, the team moving first is more likely to lose. We now likely are done trading, and the three players we picked off seem unlikely to move the needle. Unlike the one poster who's forever bemoaning lost draft picks, I have no issue moving them - especially when you have the best players in the world in their prime. That 2028 second for Murphy is a 16-year old kid right now, who's unlikely to see NHL ice before 2031. He doesn't help us at all in our window, so I have no issue moving him.

But we have limited trading chips so I'd like to see them being used to get high-impact players. In the entire Connor McDavid era, other than Ekholm, have we ever gotten a deadline player who really was a major contributor? There's some okay performers like Kulak, but how many people played anything close to a Marchand role for Florida last year - or a Spacek, Roloson or Samsonov role in 2006? I feel like our management just lacks any imagination, and has little discipline when it comes to negotiations. It's kind of crazy, given it's the same guy that fleeced us so badly when giving us aged, broken-down Duncan Keith but maybe that's just an indication of how bad Holland is too.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850568 is a reply to message #850567 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 10:06

Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton

6 Cups

Adam wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 09:25

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2026 08:32

2nd in the league in goals scored. 4th worst in goals against. If this was a video game and we were just simulating games, I guess the obvious thing to do would be to add some players with a high defensive rating to get that GA down. If only building a team was as simple as just summing up player rankings.

Just to note, we're actually 15th in the league for GF/60 5v5. The PP is still what really defines this teams offense, and we all know those powerplays go away in playoffs and we fall back to being desperate from offense from our depth.

[Updated on: Thu, 05 March 2026 10:22]

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Re: Mangiapagne, Protected 1st for Dickinson, Dach [message #850572 is a reply to message #850548 ]	Thu, 05 March 2026 10:48

Rocksteady
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Registered: March 2007

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I don't know guys, moving Mangi and all of salary maybe would have been worth it to give up a 1st with the Oilers thinking they will go on another deep run. Lots can be said this was a Bowman created problem and we lost a 1st round pick because of it. I'm happy Mangi is gone, but the price eeehh..

I think we can all agree Bowman is a pretty terrible GM, not as bad a Chia, but the sum of the parts make him to be very not good.

The Oilers will have lots of cap space on July 1 so there is a plan in place but I doubt he will keep his head when handing out those amazing team killing deal he finds.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

Generally Disappointed.

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