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 Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849594]
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From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

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smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 18:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.


Anderson is over rated.. I like this .. they lose Whitecloud who is decent.. and Vegas will wind up signing Anderson EIGHT years (until age 37) for big $ which weighs down their cap like a boat anchor.. he signed with them because they have already worked out an extension.. thumbs up. icon_nod

Note: the 1st round pick is top 10 protected.. not conditional.. and teh conditional 2nd rounder becomes a 1st rounder if Vegas wins the Cup .. so Vegas gives up thier 1st and 2nd.. minimum. :)

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 Re: Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849613 is a reply to message #849594 ]
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smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.

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 Re: Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849616 is a reply to message #849613 ]
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Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 09:48

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.


I think that it IS skill that allows the Knights to be in on player after player after player that's available. They do have some advantages when it comes to signings with a no-state-tax state, but with trades, they have to find a deal that's compelling for the other team and they have to make the cap numbers work.

On this deal, they have improved their defence (I think Andersson - much as I dislike him - is better than Whitecloud) and at the same time LOWERED their overall cap hit. That's a good day's work for a GM.

It's painful to me that the Panthers, Lightning and Knights have managed to acquire so many impact players the last few years and in almost all of these deals, the Oilers aren't even mentioned. It's like our own management just figures we can't possibly afford it so they don't even try. What I wouldn't give to be the team landing this year's Brad Marchand at the trade deadline...

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 Re: Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849619 is a reply to message #849616 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 11:28

Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 09:48

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.


I think that it IS skill that allows the Knights to be in on player after player after player that's available. They do have some advantages when it comes to signings with a no-state-tax state, but with trades, they have to find a deal that's compelling for the other team and they have to make the cap numbers work.

On this deal, they have improved their defence (I think Andersson - much as I dislike him - is better than Whitecloud) and at the same time LOWERED their overall cap hit. That's a good day's work for a GM.

It's painful to me that the Panthers, Lightning and Knights have managed to acquire so many impact players the last few years and in almost all of these deals, the Oilers aren't even mentioned. It's like our own management just figures we can't possibly afford it so they don't even try. What I wouldn't give to be the team landing this year's Brad Marchand at the trade deadline...


They definitely know how to keep some assets and cap space available to make these moves. We have been masters of maxing out our cap use, and doing it in very stupid wasteful ways to always make our deadlines extremely difficult. We did it yet again this season.

Think the reason other teams backed out on Andersson is because his camp said they don't want to commit long term to any team. Vegas seems super confident that the still get it done, or they got some assurances behind the scenes. The long term thing is definitely the unfair advantage certain teams have over others because these guys are looking at the many millions more they get to put in their bank accounts instead of hand over to a government. Wish there was some way to balance that out with a cap adjustment. Doesn't seem like that is close to happening though.

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 Re: Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849622 is a reply to message #849619 ]
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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 11:33

Adam wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 11:28

Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 09:48

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.


I think that it IS skill that allows the Knights to be in on player after player after player that's available. They do have some advantages when it comes to signings with a no-state-tax state, but with trades, they have to find a deal that's compelling for the other team and they have to make the cap numbers work.

On this deal, they have improved their defence (I think Andersson - much as I dislike him - is better than Whitecloud) and at the same time LOWERED their overall cap hit. That's a good day's work for a GM.

It's painful to me that the Panthers, Lightning and Knights have managed to acquire so many impact players the last few years and in almost all of these deals, the Oilers aren't even mentioned. It's like our own management just figures we can't possibly afford it so they don't even try. What I wouldn't give to be the team landing this year's Brad Marchand at the trade deadline...


They definitely know how to keep some assets and cap space available to make these moves. We have been masters of maxing out our cap use, and doing it in very stupid wasteful ways to always make our deadlines extremely difficult. We did it yet again this season.

Think the reason other teams backed out on Andersson is because his camp said they don't want to commit long term to any team. Vegas seems super confident that the still get it done, or they got some assurances behind the scenes. The long term thing is definitely the unfair advantage certain teams have over others because these guys are looking at the many millions more they get to put in their bank accounts instead of hand over to a government. Wish there was some way to balance that out with a cap adjustment. Doesn't seem like that is close to happening though.


This is what Seravelli/Friedman indicated.. Vegas was the only team Anderson wanted to go to and would sign an extension with.. so other teams that were interested (i.e. Boston) backed off and reduced their offers to "rental" level values.. in the end Anderson was driving the decision.. the trade to Vegas wasn't just for Anderson's existing contract, it was for this season plus a contract extension at an agreed value.. other teams would only get this season.. and offered compensation to Calgary accordingly..

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 Re: Rasmus Andersson traded to Vegas [message #849620 is a reply to message #849616 ]
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Adam wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 11:28

Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 09:48

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.


I think that it IS skill that allows the Knights to be in on player after player after player that's available. They do have some advantages when it comes to signings with a no-state-tax state, but with trades, they have to find a deal that's compelling for the other team and they have to make the cap numbers work.

On this deal, they have improved their defence (I think Andersson - much as I dislike him - is better than Whitecloud) and at the same time LOWERED their overall cap hit. That's a good day's work for a GM.

It's painful to me that the Panthers, Lightning and Knights have managed to acquire so many impact players the last few years and in almost all of these deals, the Oilers aren't even mentioned. It's like our own management just figures we can't possibly afford it so they don't even try. What I wouldn't give to be the team landing this year's Brad Marchand at the trade deadline...

Did anyone honestly think Anderson wasn't going to Vegas?

It's easy to trade away prospects and draft picks when you know that every year you can take your pick from the free agent crop and current roster (and often at a discount compared to the majority of the league) to replenish. Making deals at the deadline or in season isn't that difficult when every player and every agent (often with no trade clauses) has your team at the top of their list of destinations. Managing the cap is much easier when the NHL has rules that don't apply to you (or you have doctors that are willing to play the game - either way the result is the same).

I don't think Kelly Mcrimmand and Bill Zeto are necessarily terrible at thier jobs but are they that much smarter and better than everyone else in the league? They never stood out as these managerial prodigies before. They are simply in markets and situations where the job is easy and you'd have to be a fool not to do well.

Put Kelly Mcrimmand or Bill Zeto and their entire staffs in Winnipeg. What does that team look like? How many of the transactions they've made in the last decade happen? The answer is probably zero.

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Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 12:49

Adam wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 11:28

Jay wrote on Mon, 19 January 2026 09:48

smyth260 wrote on Sun, 18 January 2026 19:30

From Vegas Twitter.

OFFICIAL: The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Rasmus Andersson from the Calgary Flames in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, a 2027 conditional first-round pick, a 2028 conditional second-round pick, and prospect Abram Wiebe.

Calgary will retain 50% on the contract.

Vegas management continues to show their skill. Always making their team better and making room for big fish every year, without any excuses.

They have massive advantages over every other team in the league and they are not afraid to leverage them.

Every player in free agency wants to go there so it's easy to fill needs. They have great weather, no tax and a city that is a destination for the vast majority of young athletes. They are on every players list of teams they will accept a trade to. Not to mention being darlings of the NHL due to their market and being allowed to bend the rules when other teams just don't get the same leniency.

Skill? Honestly I think you could put a monkey in that position and he would probably be pretty successful. I'm far more impressed with what someone like Cheveldayov has done in Winnipeg (the last month or so notwithstanding). Putting a competitive team on the ice in that market and not based on finished last a bunch of years in a row is a different level than doing it in Vegas.


I think that it IS skill that allows the Knights to be in on player after player after player that's available. They do have some advantages when it comes to signings with a no-state-tax state, but with trades, they have to find a deal that's compelling for the other team and they have to make the cap numbers work.

On this deal, they have improved their defence (I think Andersson - much as I dislike him - is better than Whitecloud) and at the same time LOWERED their overall cap hit. That's a good day's work for a GM.

It's painful to me that the Panthers, Lightning and Knights have managed to acquire so many impact players the last few years and in almost all of these deals, the Oilers aren't even mentioned. It's like our own management just figures we can't possibly afford it so they don't even try. What I wouldn't give to be the team landing this year's Brad Marchand at the trade deadline...

Did anyone honestly think Anderson wasn't going to Vegas?

It's easy to trade away prospects and draft picks when you know that every year you can take your pick from the free agent crop and current roster (and often at a discount compared to the majority of the league) to replenish. Making deals at the deadline or in season isn't that difficult when every player and every agent (often with no trade clauses) has your team at the top of their list of destinations. Managing the cap is much easier when the NHL has rules that don't apply to you (or you have doctors that are willing to play the game - either way the result is the same).

I don't think Kelly Mcrimmand and Bill Zeto are necessarily terrible at thier jobs but are they that much smarter and better than everyone else in the league? They never stood out as these managerial prodigies before. They are simply in markets and situations where the job is easy and you'd have to be a fool not to do well.

Put Kelly Mcrimmand or Bill Zeto and their entire staffs in Winnipeg. What does that team look like? How many of the transactions they've made in the last decade happen? The answer is probably zero.


Worth noting - Bill Zito WAS seen as an up-and-coming force to be reckoned with. The Oilers even scheduled an interview with him after they fired Chiarelli and Bob "Slush Fund" Nicholson committed to running an actual selection process. Then they found out that Ken Holland was available and dropped everything to go get him.

We had an early shot at Jon Cooper in Tampa too and chose Dallas Eakins over him, so we really are masters at shooting ourselves in the foot.

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