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Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849438]	Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

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I'm sure we've all read the reports of Mangiapane wanting out, and the potential targets discussed so far of Strome and Reilly.

What are people's thoughts on them?

I think Strome is an absolute no go. 6 points in 23 games is at best a lateral move, however Mangiapane has been the better player (imo) over his career. I don't see a soft Ryan Strome being an upgrade on a guy that can be a great pest (if he finds his game again).

Reilly could be a really nice addition though; shores up the second pairing and gives the Oil an alternative to Ekholm that they could run on the top pairing if he continues to struggle with the pace of the game (Ek's game has stabilized, however I think he's obviously lost a step). I can't see why or how Toronto thinks this is a good idea, however there's been smoke around this... so maybe? Treliving is not a great GM.

Apparently Edmonton has spoken with Detroit, Vancouver and Winnipeg as well. I'm assuming Sherwood out of Vancouver, however who do you think they'd be looking at with the other two squads?

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849439 is a reply to message #849438 ]	Fri, 09 January 2026 11:42

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HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 14:20

I'm sure we've all read the reports of Mangiapane wanting out, and the potential targets discussed so far of Strome and Reilly.

What are people's thoughts on them?

I think Strome is an absolute no go. 6 points in 23 games is at best a lateral move, however Mangiapane has been the better player (imo) over his career. I don't see a soft Ryan Strome being an upgrade on a guy that can be a great pest (if he finds his game again).

Reilly could be a really nice addition though; shores up the second pairing and gives the Oil an alternative to Ekholm that they could run on the top pairing if he continues to struggle with the pace of the game (Ek's game has stabilized, however I think he's obviously lost a step). I can't see why or how Toronto thinks this is a good idea, however there's been smoke around this... so maybe? Treliving is not a great GM.

Apparently Edmonton has spoken with Detroit, Vancouver and Winnipeg as well. I'm assuming Sherwood out of Vancouver, however who do you think they'd be looking at with the other two squads?

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

Reilly carries a $7.5m cap hit doesn't he? I wouldn't think that the cap would work on him. No interest in Strome either.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849442 is a reply to message #849439 ]	Fri, 09 January 2026 12:18

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:42

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 14:20

I'm sure we've all read the reports of Mangiapane wanting out, and the potential targets discussed so far of Strome and Reilly.

What are people's thoughts on them?

I think Strome is an absolute no go. 6 points in 23 games is at best a lateral move, however Mangiapane has been the better player (imo) over his career. I don't see a soft Ryan Strome being an upgrade on a guy that can be a great pest (if he finds his game again).

Reilly could be a really nice addition though; shores up the second pairing and gives the Oil an alternative to Ekholm that they could run on the top pairing if he continues to struggle with the pace of the game (Ek's game has stabilized, however I think he's obviously lost a step). I can't see why or how Toronto thinks this is a good idea, however there's been smoke around this... so maybe? Treliving is not a great GM.

Apparently Edmonton has spoken with Detroit, Vancouver and Winnipeg as well. I'm assuming Sherwood out of Vancouver, however who do you think they'd be looking at with the other two squads?

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

Reilly carries a $7.5m cap hit doesn't he? I wouldn't think that the cap would work on him. No interest in Strome either.

Yikes, Ryan Strome at 5M with another year left. That's 1.4M more cap hit than the Mange for even less performance.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849444 is a reply to message #849442 ]	Fri, 09 January 2026 13:13

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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 15:18

Can we do Rielly for Nurse straight up? :)

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849470 is a reply to message #849438 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 11:08

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HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849473 is a reply to message #849470 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 12:00

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Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 10:08

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

This.

The two biggest free agent moves of the summer turn into grade A busts

Can you imagine how the team would look if they had Perry and Broberg at the cap hit they have now?

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849475 is a reply to message #849473 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 12:10

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 14:00

Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 10:08

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

This.

The two biggest free agent moves of the summer turn into grade A busts

Can you imagine how the team would look if they had Perry and Broberg at the cap hit they have now?

Don't forget that Perry is not just $2M this year, but also has bonuses built into his contract for up to $2M for next year based on games played (50 games gives him $1.5M) and playoff rounds played in. I don't think that the Oilers liked the idea of $2M per year over the next two years for 1 year of 41 year old Corey Perry and as great as it was to have him here I can't say I disagree with the decision at the time. Hindsight is 20/20.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849477 is a reply to message #849475 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 13:58

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oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 12:10

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 14:00

Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 10:08

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

This.

The two biggest free agent moves of the summer turn into grade A busts

Can you imagine how the team would look if they had Perry and Broberg at the cap hit they have now?

Don't forget that Perry is not just $2M this year, but also has bonuses built into his contract for up to $2M for next year based on games played (50 games gives him $1.5M) and playoff rounds played in. I don't think that the Oilers liked the idea of $2M per year over the next two years for 1 year of 41 year old Corey Perry and as great as it was to have him here I can't say I disagree with the decision at the time. Hindsight is 20/20.

It's a 1 year deal. 2M base + up to 2M in signing bonuses.

I said an extra million because I'm assuming the Oilers would have been willing to pay the 2 or 2.5. Maybe it was a million and half. Semantics.

And I think he wanted to stay and take another run at a cup. I think it's likely that if they had prioritized signing him that maybe he takes a bit less. So maybe they get him for 3.5. But even worst case scenario they pay him what he's worth and has shown again and again (and again) what he can do for a team.

The thing is that this team draws these weird arbitrary lines in the sane based on who knows what were they decide that all of a sudden that extra 1 or 2M for a Broberg or a Perry is just impossible to make work and they act like the decisions are justified because they couldn't possibly find a way to create cap space. But then they always do (just like every other team) and they spend it on bad players.

I think they could have kept Perry if they would have prioritized him even a little bit. They chose not to which I think was incredibly stupid based on the information that they had at the time.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849479 is a reply to message #849477 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 14:15

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Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 13:58

It's a 1 year deal. 2M base + up to 2M in signing bonuses.

I said an extra million because I'm assuming the Oilers would have been willing to pay the 2 or 2.5. Maybe it was a million and half. Semantics.

And I think he wanted to stay and take another run at a cup. I think it's likely that if they had prioritized signing him that maybe he takes a bit less. So maybe they get him for 3.5. But even worst case scenario they pay him what he's worth and has shown again and again (and again) what he can do for a team.

The thing is that this team draws these weird arbitrary lines in the sane based on who knows what were they decide that all of a sudden that extra 1 or 2M for a Broberg or a Perry is just impossible to make work and they act like the decisions are justified because they couldn't possibly find a way to create cap space. But then they always do (just like every other team) and they spend it on bad players.

I think they could have kept Perry if they would have prioritized him even a little bit. They chose not to which I think was incredibly stupid based on the information that they had at the time.

He's 41, and he's had a really up & down year for the Kings. Some great streaks, some long streaks with no points. He's old and slow though, and you can't count on 41 year olds. And we don't need him counting for an extra $2MM against next year's cap.

Holland is senile and gave him a crazy contract (similar to how he overpaid for Ceci & Dumoulin). We have made a lot of mistakes, but paying $4MM for a guy who's a 41-year old depth guy would just be another one.

I do think there's some analysis that the team needs to do on why everyone fails as a bottom-6 guy here, because not everyone can play with Connor & Leon.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849480 is a reply to message #849479 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 15:26

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Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:15

I do think there's some analysis that the team needs to do on why everyone fails as a bottom-6 guy here, because not everyone can play with Connor & Leon.

This is the most key point to me. The bottom 6 has been so consistently bad for so many years it tells me that there is still a lingering culture of top guys being the ones that carry the team (like the "core" from the Hall-Eberle-Nuge days), and everyone else being an afterthought. It might not be a culture in the room, but it still feels like that is the message from the top, shaping the organization.

I would be interested to see how our bottom 6 compares over the last 5 years to the rest of the league in terms of goal differential though. I am sure it isn't great, but would be interesting.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849481 is a reply to message #849480 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 16:07

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oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 15:26

Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:15

I do think there's some analysis that the team needs to do on why everyone fails as a bottom-6 guy here, because not everyone can play with Connor & Leon.

This is the most key point to me. The bottom 6 has been so consistently bad for so many years it tells me that there is still a lingering culture of top guys being the ones that carry the team (like the "core" from the Hall-Eberle-Nuge days), and everyone else being an afterthought. It might not be a culture in the room, but it still feels like that is the message from the top, shaping the organization.

I would be interested to see how our bottom 6 compares over the last 5 years to the rest of the league in terms of goal differential though. I am sure it isn't great, but would be interesting.

I 100% think there's an issue there. I think that the coaches and possibly the management have believed that the depth guys just shouldn't cost you anything, and so there's been a focus on puck management and just eating up some time while the top guys catch their breath. If you sign in Edmonton hoping to play on the first couple lines, and they decide to bump you down the roster, all of a sudden you're not getting rewarded for offence. It could be pretty frustrating and honestly kind of boring. If you also aren't a PK specialist, it means you're looking at low time on ice and it's going to impact your production - and then eventually your next contract. Would be super frustrating as a Skinner or Mangiapane coming here, maybe taking a little less (I've heard that Mangiapane did) and then not getting much of a shot to produce on the top lines and then being told your job when you do go out on the ice isn't to outscore the other team's dregs, it's simply to stay behind the puck and take no risks.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849482 is a reply to message #849481 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 16:18

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Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:07

oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 15:26

Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:15

I do think there's some analysis that the team needs to do on why everyone fails as a bottom-6 guy here, because not everyone can play with Connor & Leon.

This is the most key point to me. The bottom 6 has been so consistently bad for so many years it tells me that there is still a lingering culture of top guys being the ones that carry the team (like the "core" from the Hall-Eberle-Nuge days), and everyone else being an afterthought. It might not be a culture in the room, but it still feels like that is the message from the top, shaping the organization.

I would be interested to see how our bottom 6 compares over the last 5 years to the rest of the league in terms of goal differential though. I am sure it isn't great, but would be interesting.

I 100% think there's an issue there. I think that the coaches and possibly the management have believed that the depth guys just shouldn't cost you anything, and so there's been a focus on puck management and just eating up some time while the top guys catch their breath. If you sign in Edmonton hoping to play on the first couple lines, and they decide to bump you down the roster, all of a sudden you're not getting rewarded for offence. It could be pretty frustrating and honestly kind of boring. If you also aren't a PK specialist, it means you're looking at low time on ice and it's going to impact your production - and then eventually your next contract. Would be super frustrating as a Skinner or Mangiapane coming here, maybe taking a little less (I've heard that Mangiapane did) and then not getting much of a shot to produce on the top lines and then being told your job when you do go out on the ice isn't to outscore the other team's dregs, it's simply to stay behind the puck and take no risks.

Wouldn't be shocking to see Mangiapane rebound and become a useful player for another team. Arvidsson is doing quite well for Boston (when healthy). His 22 points would put him fifth amongst Oilers forwards this year.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849484 is a reply to message #849482 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 16:24

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mightyreasoner wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:18

Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:07

oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 15:26

Adam wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 16:15

I do think there's some analysis that the team needs to do on why everyone fails as a bottom-6 guy here, because not everyone can play with Connor & Leon.

This is the most key point to me. The bottom 6 has been so consistently bad for so many years it tells me that there is still a lingering culture of top guys being the ones that carry the team (like the "core" from the Hall-Eberle-Nuge days), and everyone else being an afterthought. It might not be a culture in the room, but it still feels like that is the message from the top, shaping the organization.

I would be interested to see how our bottom 6 compares over the last 5 years to the rest of the league in terms of goal differential though. I am sure it isn't great, but would be interesting.

I 100% think there's an issue there. I think that the coaches and possibly the management have believed that the depth guys just shouldn't cost you anything, and so there's been a focus on puck management and just eating up some time while the top guys catch their breath. If you sign in Edmonton hoping to play on the first couple lines, and they decide to bump you down the roster, all of a sudden you're not getting rewarded for offence. It could be pretty frustrating and honestly kind of boring. If you also aren't a PK specialist, it means you're looking at low time on ice and it's going to impact your production - and then eventually your next contract. Would be super frustrating as a Skinner or Mangiapane coming here, maybe taking a little less (I've heard that Mangiapane did) and then not getting much of a shot to produce on the top lines and then being told your job when you do go out on the ice isn't to outscore the other team's dregs, it's simply to stay behind the puck and take no risks.

Wouldn't be shocking to see Mangiapane rebound and become a useful player for another team. Arvidsson is doing quite well for Boston (when healthy). His 22 points would put him fifth amongst Oilers forwards this year.

Hell, even Jeff Skinner's 13 points (in 32 games) would put him ahead of every depth forward the Oilers have other than Roslovic (20 points), Podkolzin (19 points) & Savoie (14 points).

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849474 is a reply to message #849470 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 12:02

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Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 11:08

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

Perry was a huge gamble for LA. At some point father time catches up and I still believe it was the right move at the time to move on from him. I am curious to why Perry sought the extra dollars at this point in his career. LA is much further away from a Cup than Edmonton and a lot of contenders who would have sought after him at a more reasonabloe price point.

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849476 is a reply to message #849474 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 13:16

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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 12:02

Jay wrote on Mon, 12 January 2026 11:08

HamBlaster wrote on Fri, 09 January 2026 11:20

The Oilers need a personality, and their acquisitions of Frederic and Mangiapane were probably intended to be the replacements of Kane and Perry... and so far, we've seen a whimper from both. Freddy lit a fire under the guys when he took on Stanley in that last Jets game (even though the turtle at the end was pretty embarrassing), so that was a start... but this team needs jam and some disturbers. We don't have much of anything resembling that right now.

They aren't getting anything of value for Mangiarvidson. He's a negative asset. If they can dump him for nothing and only have to sweeten with a mid round pick then they should probably consider that a win and that is likely what will happen.

It's awesome that they are now looking for replacements for Kane and Perry. Those guys are really rare and it isn't easy to find guys that bring that element and can contribute. Particularly Perry. I have no idea how you watch the '24 and '25 playoffs and decide that what Perry brought to the team wasn't worth an extra million against the cap - and then go and spend it on Trent Frederick etc. Just brutal and completely predictable that they are now looking for that exact player.

The way this team throws money around to garbage free agents or the next shiny thing instead of being willing to pay the players that actually might contribute is wild. They had a first ballot hall of famer who fights, scores, agitates and leads and they let him walk so they could sign Andrew Mangiopani. Lol. Hey Broberg signed a new deal! I bet the Oilers would love a player like that!

Perry was a huge gamble for LA. At some point father time catches up and I still believe it was the right move at the time to move on from him. I am curious to why Perry sought the extra dollars at this point in his career. LA is much further away from a Cup than Edmonton and a lot of contenders who would have sought after him at a more reasonabloe price point.

I'm not sure we outbid Holland anyways for Perry. He probably would have gone to 6M cap hit if he needed to :) He wanted his Perry.

That's the one thing Holland can still actually win at, a UFA bidding war :)

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Re: Mangiapane Potential Trade [message #849478 is a reply to message #849476 ]	Mon, 12 January 2026 14:06

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I don't think I hated the signing when it happened. At least not the player. He's been decent most of his career, was a stud a few years back at the WHC. Thought the $ was a bit high, but for 15 goals/40 points which he's pretty consistently put up over his career, not too too bad. Not like Frederic bad anyway. I mean he started the season with points in his first 3 games (G, G, A).

Anyway - whatever the reason, it simply doesn't seem to be working out here. Hopefully he finds his game to either give us the player we hoped for or at least allow us to offload him without having to pay too much.

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