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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847533 is a reply to message #840754 ]	Mon, 15 September 2025 19:34

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Rumour is we inquired on Hart (and Dube), but Hart is looking at an American team. Probably the best choice for himself, as he could be anonymous in a city like Nashville, near where he was training during the trial versus answering questions everyday in a large market or Canadian market.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847546 is a reply to message #840754 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 12:50

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Well look at that 👀👀

Stuart Skinner 2024-25:

6-foot-4, 230 lbs

2025-26:

6-foot-4, 205 lbs

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His likely inspiration:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_JO9etPxQJKVDpxeFsmvX5b3wcXbYsQsUdw&s

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847548 is a reply to message #847546 ]	Wed, 17 September 2025 13:49

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 September 2025 12:50

Caleb Kerney @CKerneyWriter
Well look at that 👀👀

Stuart Skinner 2024-25:

6-foot-4, 230 lbs

2025-26:

6-foot-4, 205 lbs

#LetsGoOilers

His likely inspiration:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_JO9etPxQJKVDpxeFsmvX5b3wcXbYsQsUdw&s

He lost 25lbs in one season??

Lol that's insane. What was Stuart Dinners workout routine before this year? He's a goalie so I'm guessing it involved a lot of splits. Bannana splits.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847554 is a reply to message #847548 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 07:51

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he had a kid last year, right? Even as a pro athlete, it's not totally surprising.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847555 is a reply to message #847554 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 08:50

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 07:51

he had a kid last year, right? Even as a pro athlete, it's not totally surprising.

Trying to find his old weights before last year. 230 was probably the highest he's ever been, maybe cause of having kids. I can only find older measurements of 215 and 220 on stat sites.

So, he might still have managed to be at least ~10 lbs lighter than he was in seasons before. Hopefully pays off. Curious if he has a new coach that pushed him to do this with the Schwartz out.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847556 is a reply to message #847554 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 10:26

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 07:51

he had a kid last year, right? Even as a pro athlete, it's not totally surprising.

Huh? Care to elaborate?

Yes I have kids.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847557 is a reply to message #847556 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 10:32

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you didn't put on weight when your wife was pregnant or when you were sleep deprived for over a year?

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847560 is a reply to message #847557 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 10:47

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 10:32

you didn't put on weight when your wife was pregnant or when you were sleep deprived for over a year?

I do have a working theory that goalies (at least Oilers goalies) struggle after having a kid and often find their game again a few years later (Talbot, Dubnyk, maybe Skinner). Is you are a half second off from sleep deprivation at another position, it may make an impact, but it doesn't always result in a goal. The same isn't true for goalies, so if they aren't as sharp mentally or physically they get exposed.

It's my theory. I keep hoping some journalist will do a deep dive on it.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847563 is a reply to message #847560 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 11:23

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mightyreasoner wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 10:47

Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 10:32

you didn't put on weight when your wife was pregnant or when you were sleep deprived for over a year?

I do have a working theory that goalies (at least Oilers goalies) struggle after having a kid and often find their game again a few years later (Talbot, Dubnyk, maybe Skinner). Is you are a half second off from sleep deprivation at another position, it may make an impact, but it doesn't always result in a goal. The same isn't true for goalies, so if they aren't as sharp mentally or physically they get exposed.

It's my theory. I keep hoping some journalist will do a deep dive on it.

I can see this as a possibility for letting in goals for sure and having a dip in your play. But not for being out of shape. That split second of reaction time shouldn't affect you doing everything you can to be ready including hitting the stairmaster or whatever his staff of personal trainers and coaches have planned for him.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847562 is a reply to message #847557 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 11:20

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Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 18 September 2025 10:32

you didn't put on weight when your wife was pregnant or when you were sleep deprived for over a year?

No. But I can understand this for normal people with real jobs and responsibilities. This guy is a professional athlete with every conceivable resource available to him and his entire job is to stay in shape. I'm sorry..if you are in the NHL and a starting goalie no less and you are carrying around an extra 25 lbs that's a massive red flag and you are simply lazy.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847564 is a reply to message #840754 ]	Thu, 18 September 2025 12:04

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Looks like Stu is actually at 215 lbs. Not the 205.

Daniel Nugent-Bowman @DNBsports
Stuart Skinner is listed at 205 pounds after being 230 last season.

"I'm definitely not 205. I don't know if that would be healthy for me, losing 25 pounds in a month. I'm 215 right now."

He said he wanted to drop some weight for joint health and to increase his longevity.

guess we'll see if it matters at all for his play.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847715 is a reply to message #840754 ]	Thu, 02 October 2025 17:52

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Carter Hart signing in Vegas.. as you'd expect.. I'd wish him well.. but not Vegas

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847722 is a reply to message #847715 ]	Fri, 03 October 2025 09:12

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Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 October 2025 17:52

Carter Hart signing in Vegas.. as you'd expect.. I'd wish him well.. but not Vegas

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/former-flyers-g-hart-almost-c ertain-to-join-golden-knights-in-coming-days/

Carter just signing there because he heard that whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847723 is a reply to message #847722 ]	Fri, 03 October 2025 10:23

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Adam wrote on Fri, 03 October 2025 09:12

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 October 2025 17:52

Carter Hart signing in Vegas.. as you'd expect.. I'd wish him well.. but not Vegas

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/former-flyers-g-hart-almost-c ertain-to-join-golden-knights-in-coming-days/

Carter just signing there because he heard that whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...

That was tee'd up for you.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847728 is a reply to message #847722 ]	Fri, 03 October 2025 12:46

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Adam wrote on Fri, 03 October 2025 08:12

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 02 October 2025 17:52

Carter Hart signing in Vegas.. as you'd expect.. I'd wish him well.. but not Vegas

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/former-flyers-g-hart-almost-c ertain-to-join-golden-knights-in-coming-days/

Carter just signing there because he heard that whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...

Also.. I heard there's quite a few

https://images.stockcake.com/public/6/a/2/6a2c1a05-9db0-4a69-9fa4-31ffdcc8af84_medium/rugged-desert-vehicle-stockcake.jpg

dealerships in Vegas...

[Updated on: Fri, 03 October 2025 14:19]

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847737 is a reply to message #847728 ]	Fri, 03 October 2025 17:35

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I look forward to booing him in his hometown return.

How great would the goalie hex sound as "PERRRRRRVERRRRTTT! PERRRRRRRRVERRRRTT!"

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #847743 is a reply to message #840754 ]	Sun, 05 October 2025 14:05

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Both Nico Daws and Mike Dipietro on waivers today..

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848660 is a reply to message #847743 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

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Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848661 is a reply to message #848660 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 08:30

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 10:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Blues would have to retain 50% on Binnington and make it a one for one swap. I would do that in a heartbeat.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848663 is a reply to message #848660 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 10:29

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848664 is a reply to message #848663 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 11:54

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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 10:29

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

I'd be thrilled if they could make this happen but I expect the Oilers would have to add a lot to make it work as salary would probably have to be retained. If they can figure out a way to get Skinnner out and Binnington in then make it happen.

Curious why is Skinner a good person and Binnington isnt in your opinion?

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848665 is a reply to message #848664 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 11:58

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Jay wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 11:54

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 10:29

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

I'd be thrilled if they could make this happen but I expect the Oilers would have to add a lot to make it work as salary would probably have to be retained. If they can figure out a way to get Skinnner out and Binnington in then make it happen.

Curious why is Skinner a good person and Binnington isnt in your opinion?

With the corner we've backed ourselves into, I think the only option now would be a guy like Binnington.

The Blues are playing like crap, kinda like us. Only, Binnington has shown many times that he can up his game when it matters most. We have the opposite type of guy in our net.

It's risky, no doubt, but the highest risk thing we can do right now is just pray Skinner and Pickard are the solution. There is no excuse to be writing off a season like that and just hoping that Pickard can save the day again in the playoffs. We gambled hard 2 playoffs in a row now, and got extremely lucky to go as far as we did. It's really looking unlikely Pickard is going to save us a 3rd time.

Time to actually get serious about the goalie position, and Binnington might be the best hope out there mid-season and with our team looking like trash and the entire world knowing we're desperate for a goalie. Gotta find another team that is in the dumps like us, with a struggling goalie that at least has shown they can perform in playoff situations. Or maybe a hidden gem on an actual garbage team destined for a lottery pick, but I can't imagine our goalie scouts could ever find such a player.

[Updated on: Wed, 26 November 2025 12:02]

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848667 is a reply to message #848665 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 12:37

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Kr55 wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 11:58

Jay wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 11:54

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 10:29

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

I'd be thrilled if they could make this happen but I expect the Oilers would have to add a lot to make it work as salary would probably have to be retained. If they can figure out a way to get Skinnner out and Binnington in then make it happen.

Curious why is Skinner a good person and Binnington isnt in your opinion?

With the corner we've backed ourselves into, I think the only option now would be a guy like Binnington.

The Blues are playing like crap, kinda like us. Only, Binnington has shown many times that he can up his game when it matters most. We have the opposite type of guy in our net.

It's risky, no doubt, but the highest risk thing we can do right now is just pray Skinner and Pickard are the solution. There is no excuse to be writing off a season like that and just hoping that Pickard can save the day again in the playoffs. We gambled hard 2 playoffs in a row now, and got extremely lucky to go as far as we did. It's really looking unlikely Pickard is going to save us a 3rd time.

Time to actually get serious about the goalie position, and Binnington might be the best hope out there mid-season and with our team looking like trash and the entire world knowing we're desperate for a goalie. Gotta find another team that is in the dumps like us, with a struggling goalie that at least has shown they can perform in playoff situations. Or maybe a hidden gem on an actual garbage team destined for a lottery pick, but I can't imagine our goalie scouts could ever find such a player.

Don't forget in '23 Jack Campbell bailed out Skinner in R1 only for them to go back to Skinner and lose in R2.

It's crazy how Skinner is the only goalie that get's the benefit of the doubt time after time after time from this team. Even this year all the talk has been about moving on from their dirt cheap back up who bailed them out in the playoffs. The scribes really like that moustache though.

I think he's (finally) done in Edmonton. I expect him to bounce around next year as a backup and be out of the league by 2028.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848669 is a reply to message #848667 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 12:54

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Jay wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 12:37

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 11:58

Jay wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 11:54

mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 10:29

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

I'd be thrilled if they could make this happen but I expect the Oilers would have to add a lot to make it work as salary would probably have to be retained. If they can figure out a way to get Skinnner out and Binnington in then make it happen.

Curious why is Skinner a good person and Binnington isnt in your opinion?

With the corner we've backed ourselves into, I think the only option now would be a guy like Binnington.

The Blues are playing like crap, kinda like us. Only, Binnington has shown many times that he can up his game when it matters most. We have the opposite type of guy in our net.

It's risky, no doubt, but the highest risk thing we can do right now is just pray Skinner and Pickard are the solution. There is no excuse to be writing off a season like that and just hoping that Pickard can save the day again in the playoffs. We gambled hard 2 playoffs in a row now, and got extremely lucky to go as far as we did. It's really looking unlikely Pickard is going to save us a 3rd time.

Time to actually get serious about the goalie position, and Binnington might be the best hope out there mid-season and with our team looking like trash and the entire world knowing we're desperate for a goalie. Gotta find another team that is in the dumps like us, with a struggling goalie that at least has shown they can perform in playoff situations. Or maybe a hidden gem on an actual garbage team destined for a lottery pick, but I can't imagine our goalie scouts could ever find such a player.

Don't forget in '23 Jack Campbell bailed out Skinner in R1 only for them to go back to Skinner and lose in R2.

It's crazy how Skinner is the only goalie that get's the benefit of the doubt time after time after time from this team. Even this year all the talk has been about moving on from their dirt cheap back up who bailed them out in the playoffs. The scribes really like that moustache though.

I think he's (finally) done in Edmonton. I expect him to bounce around next year as a backup and be out of the league by 2028.

yikes, yeah.

If we just stuck with Skinner the last 3 playoffs, our results could have been:

2023 - Out Round 1
2024 - Out Round 2
2025 - Out Round 1

I'm sure management would have still just kept assessing the goaltending situation through all that.

Wonder if Drai or McDavid would have extended still after that.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848666 is a reply to message #848663 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 12:05

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mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 12:29

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 08:01

Speculation this morning that the Oilers and Blues are working on a goalie swap. Skinner for Binnington.
Binner's having a terrible year, and the Blues would need to retain salary in order to make it happen.

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that trade. He's had a pretty good record the past few years, but has been absolutely awful this year.

Yeah, mixed feelings for sure. He doesn't seem like a very good person vs. Stu who does. So on the human element, we probably lose that trade.

That said, he has a track record of coming through in big moments – the Stanley Cup run and the 4 Nations Cup come to mind immediately. He honestly probably should have won the Conn Smythe and maybe the Hart his rookie year – if he doesn't come in mid-season and play lights out, the Blues don't make the playoffs, much less win the Stanley Cup. The turnaround that team had with Binnington in the crease was historic.

Like Skinner though, he has ups and downs. He's had a lot of downs this year.

I think there's a lot of questions around Binnington, and if he is the answer. But probably you still make that deal, because it has become quite clear that Skinner is not the answer.

I know I am in the minority, but I actually like Binnington. He has an attitude you rarely see in goalies which can be off-putting when he is in a slump, but I see him as much more likely to rebound this season than Skinner. If the Blues want to move on then trading him now for Skinner gets him out a year faster. With the numbers this season I am not sure how they can demand a whole lot more from the Oilers, as it is helpful for both teams, but then again the Oilers always seem to pay a premium.

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Re: Goalie Targets [message #848673 is a reply to message #848666 ]	Wed, 26 November 2025 13:48

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oilfan94 wrote on Wed, 26 November 2025 12:05

I know I am in the minority, but I actually like Binnington. He has an attitude you rarely see in goalies which can be off-putting when he is in a slump, but I see him as much more likely to rebound this season than Skinner. If the Blues want to move on then trading him now for Skinner gets him out a year faster. With the numbers this season I am not sure how they can demand a whole lot more from the Oilers, as it is helpful for both teams, but then again the Oilers always seem to pay a premium.

No question in my mind - both of these players need a change of scenery, Skinner especially.

Whether or not this trade makes sense for the Oilers is a different story, but I don't see Skinner having any level of success with the Oilers. I think most would agree that Skinner has the size and skill (in flashes), but there's clearly something fundamentally going wrong here. He desperately needs a fresh start.

Personally, I'd make the trade in a heartbeat. But I don't blame the Oilers for being cautious of Binnington.

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