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GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848505]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:05

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848506 is a reply to message #848505 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:14

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848507 is a reply to message #848506 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:19

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We aren’t doing anything with this goalie.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848508 is a reply to message #848507 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:20

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2-1. Nurse!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848510 is a reply to message #848508 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:27

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Just tank at this point lol

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848509 is a reply to message #848507 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:22

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2-0 after 6m? 3 saves on 5 shots? Awesome. Why are we so bad all of a sudden?

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848511 is a reply to message #848509 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:28

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 00:22

2-0 after 6m? 3 saves on 5 shots? Awesome. Why are we so bad all of a sudden?

Just horrendous. This team looks like it has given up. They don’t trust our goaltending at all. That could kill a team.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848512 is a reply to message #848511 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:29

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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 20:28

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 00:22

2-0 after 6m? 3 saves on 5 shots? Awesome. Why are we so bad all of a sudden?

Just horrendous. This team looks like it has given up. They don’t trust our goaltending at all. That could kill a team.

Oh Lord. 3-1 and could easily be 4-1 if not for the post. Rocking that .600 save %

I haven't watched a single game this year, but it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything at all

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848513 is a reply to message #848512 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:34

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 20:29

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 20:28

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 00:22

2-0 after 6m? 3 saves on 5 shots? Awesome. Why are we so bad all of a sudden?

Just horrendous. This team looks like it has given up. They don’t trust our goaltending at all. That could kill a team.

Oh Lord. 3-1 and could easily be 4-1 if not for the post. Rocking that .600 save %

I haven't watched a single game this year, but it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything at all

Battle of the shooter tutors tonight or what? Seems like every other shot on net goes in.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848514 is a reply to message #848512 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:34

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 00:29

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 20:28

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 00:22

2-0 after 6m? 3 saves on 5 shots? Awesome. Why are we so bad all of a sudden?

Just horrendous. This team looks like it has given up. They don’t trust our goaltending at all. That could kill a team.

Oh Lord. 3-1 and could easily be 4-1 if not for the post. Rocking that .600 save %

I haven't watched a single game this year, but it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything at all

You really aren’t missing anything. It’s 3-2. The offense is trying , but this goaltending kills us

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848515 is a reply to message #848514 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:38

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From the pre-game thread:

Skookum Jim wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 13:37

From Stauffer:

Quote:

Savoie-McDavid-Roslovic
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Mangiapane
Frederic-Henrique-Hyman
Janmark-Tomasek

Nurse-Bouchard (Let the Hilarity Commence!)
Ekholm-Kulak
Walman-Regula
Emberson

Crap news about Philp and Lazar..

Quote:

Bob Stauffer@Bob_Stauffer
According to @EdmontonOilers Head Coach Kris Knoblauch both Noah Philp and Curtis Lazar both will be out for the remainder of the road trip with Upper Body injuries.
EDM has limited cap space so they will go 11-7 for the next few games

Against all odds, that Nurse/Bouch pairing is +2 in a 3-2 game (can't find a shrug emoji)

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848518 is a reply to message #848507 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:53

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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:19

We aren’t doing anything with this goalie.

I know it is easy to pick a scapegoat but it isnt always Skinner's fault's. The first goal Kulak doubled down by losing the battle in the corner and his guy got the puck out. Then he lost the race to the net so couldnt get position and his guy scored. Skinner saved a screened, tipped shot, cant ask for more.

The third one was the only one I think he had a chance on.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848519 is a reply to message #848518 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:04

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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:53

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:19

We aren’t doing anything with this goalie.

I went back during intermission and watched all three GA. You could argue that Kulak made an error on ALL THREE.

I have said before that blaming one guy for a GA is not usually right. There are often multiple errors when sitting in the film room. With that in mind, Kulak would definitely lead the team in GA errors if you looked at all of the goals against this year. Considering he brings next to no offence, he is my pick for a trip to the press box.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848520 is a reply to message #848519 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:10

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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:04

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:53

tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:19

We aren’t doing anything with this goalie.

Definitely disappointing & concerning, considering he's been one of our most reliable d men the past few seasons

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848516 is a reply to message #848505 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:43

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Nurse must have been reading fan comments about him in social media again.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848517 is a reply to message #848516 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 17:50

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Losing to a goalie who's at .778 SV% for the game. Sounds about right.
We can barely win when our goalie posts a 0.8 SV% so not unexpected that we're behind.

To be clear, I'm not blaming that 100% on our goalies. We've left our goalies out to dry SO MANY times this year, but at some point you'll hope they make a save.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848521 is a reply to message #848517 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:12

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 17:50

The players play like they know they are doomed with any mistake they make, which unfortunately just leads to more mistakes because they are way too conservative.

And our goalie plays like he's trying to convince himself he's still awesome and nothing is ever his fault, because if he lets any doubt creep into his mind he will fall into a chronic depression.

It's all gumdrops and rainbows around this team these days!

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848522 is a reply to message #848521 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:13

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Don’t worry boys

We have them where we want them

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848524 is a reply to message #848522 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:27

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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:13

Don’t worry boys

We have them where we want them

Maybe

At least we're not defending a 2 goal lead? Cause we don't seem to be able to that this year. Looking for positives here.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848523 is a reply to message #848517 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:26

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

I agree and I think this is a case of two things can be true.
Skinner (and even more so Pickard) have not been good enough.
The team is giving up too many dangerous chances. Whether it is a missed assignment, giveaway, lost battle or some other mistake this is happening too many times a game.

The upside for me is that the second point can likely be cleaned up. The Oilers are only averaging around 26 SA/G, one of the better teams in the league. Stop the neutral zone giveaways and focus on positioning in the D zone and I would bet the goalies start to look a lot better.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848525 is a reply to message #848523 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:30

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PlusOne wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 01:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

Teams lose confidence when their goalie is as bad as ours have been this year. They just don’t trust them at all. We play from behind nearly every game because our goalie lets up some garbage. I am not a professional goalie but I play beer league and I would make saves that skinner isn’t. It’s pathetic. Our defense no doubt isn’t good either, but this starts with goaltending. Until that is addressed this season is a wash

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848528 is a reply to message #848525 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:37

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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 19:30

PlusOne wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 01:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

I would expect someone who plays goalie to have a more rational take on goaltending. It is a cop out and easy scapegoat to blame everything on Skinner.
Tonight is one game but many have gone this way. Skinner has made plenty of good saves tonight. The Caps have had more good chances in half a game than a team should give up over 60.

ETA; one thing I do agree on 100% is that teams lose confidence in front of bad goaltending. I dont think that is the case with the Oilers right now if the goalies were playing better it would defintaly allow team to play more loose (in a good way)

[Updated on: Wed, 19 November 2025 18:39]

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848526 is a reply to message #848523 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:33

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PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

Agreed.
The more concerning stat for me is that for the past 2-3 years we've been top of the league in expected goals for, so even when the results didn't go in our favour we at least had that going for us.
This year we've been near the BOTTOM of the league in expected goals for. That tells me that we're not even generating the chances needed.
That needs fixing asap. Less Smytty shots from the point, more actual threatening shots please

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848527 is a reply to message #848526 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:35

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:33

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

Florida break our players brains? How inept we became at doing anything vs Florida in the finals seems to have just carried over into this season against any competition.

Either that or Gulutzan was doing double duty for Knob and was coaching the 5v5 offense too and now we're lost.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848529 is a reply to message #848527 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:44

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Regardless. We need 5 goals or more each night to win and it’s just not practical. Season is looking more and more lost

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848530 is a reply to message #848526 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:46

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 19:33

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

To your point about expected goals.
I mentioned the SA stat. I see some pretty drastic changes in some of the systems and defensive commitments from the forwards. There are less blowing the zone or trying longer stretch passes from their own end. Once in the offensive one the are playing more conservatively, often having F3 in the high slot instead of right down low.
Those things will limit the SA but also the expected goals for.
These big changes to the forwards would have a big impact on defenceman. They need to get used to a lot of timing angles and where the support is coming from. This may be one of the causes to this disorganized look from the entire group of blueliners.

The optimist in me hopes they are fully committed to learning how to play a defensive style, knowing the have the offensive, run and gun style mastered. This would allow them to be a more well rounded team later in the season and playoffs.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848531 is a reply to message #848530 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 18:56

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 19:33

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

Haven't watched a game this year, so I'm hoping that maybe that's it. I agree that come playoff time that could pay dividends, but I'm worried that we're so disjointed that we may not even get that far.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848532 is a reply to message #848531 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:02

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 01:56

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:46

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 19:33

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

that’s where I’m at too. Not even sure playoffs will happen

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848533 is a reply to message #848532 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:04

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tardigrade81 wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 20:02

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 01:56

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 19:33

PlusOne wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 21:26

NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Wed, 19 November 2025 18:50

that’s where I’m at too. Not even sure playoffs will happen

I have zero doubt they will make the playoffs. If I was a betting man, I would put money on it.

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848534 is a reply to message #848533 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:08

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Go Tomesek. He seems like a legit scoring threat. Give him some more chances with the big boys please. Certainly doing more that Mangiapane (sp)

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848535 is a reply to message #848534 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:14

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Oh look, another 2 on 1 that ends up in the back of our net. That has happened WAY too many times this season. You'd hope your goalie could save the odd one, but it what it is.

Edit: Woo Drai!

Still doesn't change the fact that we give up WAY too many 2 on 1's like the one they scored on though. Trying to outscore our deficiencies like we have been all season...

[Updated on: Wed, 19 November 2025 19:16]

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848536 is a reply to message #848535 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:22

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NZ Oiler Fan wrote on Thu, 20 November 2025 02:14

It’s amazing how good this offense is. We are in every game despite turning it over and having the worst goaltending in the league

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848537 is a reply to message #848535 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:23

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Needing to score 5-6 goals a game to win is getting old pretty quick. What happened to our elite shutdown D from last season?

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Re: GDT: Edmonton @ Washington (Game #22) [message #848540 is a reply to message #848505 ]	Wed, 19 November 2025 19:41

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Wilson just casually doubling Frederic's yearly production in 28 seconds.

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