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McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847749]	Mon, 06 October 2025 10:26

Adam
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He's posted on his twitter account. Internet abuzz...details soon?

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Re: McDavid re-signs - terms to come [message #847752 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 10:49

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Sounds like short term and under 15M AAV.

McDavid doing what he can to give us cap space to compete for the next 3 or so years. If we squander it again, might be the true ending to his time here.

edit: Spector saying 2 years and under 14M actually. guess we'll see.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, dollars to come [message #847753 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 10:51

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Two years AT TWELVE AND A HALF MILLION PER YEAR!!! That's an incredible team-friendly deal. They better get it done - and ask everyone else to leave money on the table too now.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, dollars to come [message #847755 is a reply to message #847753 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 10:55

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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:51

Two years AT TWELVE AND A HALF MILLION PER YEAR!!! That's an incredible team-friendly deal. They better get it done - and ask everyone else to leave money on the table too now.

Got a feeling that McDavid and Drai might still be the only ones doing that. Maybe lump Nuge in there too.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 October 2025 10:59]

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- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, dollars to come [message #847757 is a reply to message #847755 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:04

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:55

Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:51

Two years AT TWELVE AND A HALF MILLION PER YEAR!!! That's an incredible team-friendly deal. They better get it done - and ask everyone else to leave money on the table too now.

Got a feeling that McDavid and Drai might still be the only ones doing that. Maybe lump Nuge in there too.

Looks like it's a 3 year cup or bust window.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, dollars to come [message #847756 is a reply to message #847753 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:03

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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:51

Two years AT TWELVE AND A HALF MILLION PER YEAR!!! That's an incredible team-friendly deal. They better get it done - and ask everyone else to leave money on the table too now.

I don't know how anyone can be pissed about this in Edmonton. That's quite a statement.

It is really going to make me uneasy when TO starts doing house cleaning for cap space in the second year of this Oiler deal though. Please Connor, don't do it. I want to keep loving you..

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5M AAV [message #847754 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 10:52

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The #Oilers have signed forward Connor McDavid to a two-year contract extension with an AAV of $12.5 million!

Welp, excuse deleted for being able to win the next 3 years. McDavid just completely passing on cash in to try to win.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 October 2025 10:54]

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847758 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:06

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Okay Bowman. It is all on you now. McDavid did more than his part.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847759 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:07

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I'm glad we don't have to spend the rest of this season talking about it, but we'll be back to square one soon enough. Although I guess not really. The cup has to come here in the next two (maybe 3) seasons or he's absolutely gone.

The Oilers owe it to him to get this done. He left a crapload of money on the table. Huge risk if he ever gets injured. Build this guy a winning team plz.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847760 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:16

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Like.. McD left major cash on the table to win now.

He gave a major hometown discount to win. You cannot fault him for that, and Oilers brass better have a solid damn plan to make them win now.

He simply maintains his salary for 2 more years after this one. It's a huge olive branch to the team, it's fans and to the NHL that in order to win he will do whatever it takes.

Now win.

The very definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing expecting different results.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847764 is a reply to message #847760 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:44

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Wow fantastic deal for the Oilers and Mcdavid backing up his talk about winning being the top priority. Can't really ask for a more team friendly deal if you're the Oilers. Make it count.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847767 is a reply to message #847764 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 12:05

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Jay wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:44

Wow fantastic deal for the Oilers and Mcdavid backing up his talk about winning being the top priority. Can't really ask for a more team friendly deal if you're the Oilers. Make it count.

This is what its all about..

Oilers have room to bring in skilled people.. that aren't expecting lottery wins in a contract.. guys that just want to win.. and the leader leads by example.. McDavid is taking $7M less what he's worth in order to win.. and giving Bowman a hand up.. lots of room to deal.. no room for lottery seekers.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847784 is a reply to message #847767 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 14:45

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:05

McDavid is taking $7M less what he's worth in order to win.. and giving Bowman a hand up.. lots of room to deal.. no room for lottery seekers.

This is the absolute key for me. The team can potentially acquire a player with a big contract, but if they're signing anyone - whether external or internal - then they should be pointing to what McDavid has done and say "Connor is taking a discount so we can win. What do you value? Max money or winning?" They should all be taking that little bit less so that we can get where we need to get.

And we better not go in to the playoffs with the same goalie tandem again...

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847788 is a reply to message #847784 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 15:51

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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:45

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:05

McDavid is taking $7M less what he's worth in order to win.. and giving Bowman a hand up.. lots of room to deal.. no room for lottery seekers.

It should also be a factor for existing players re-signing internally.. go for the market lottery jackpot.. or stay here and win.. the best player in hockey is taking a 35% cut in market value to win.. so.. are you a winner.. or a money chaser?

It will filter out the winners from losers.

With that said.. we'll see what Ekholm re-signs for .. and for how long.. in the next few days.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 October 2025 16:08]

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847790 is a reply to message #847788 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 16:06

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The meltdown over on cpuck is absolutely hilarious right now.
Of course every single one of them is framing it as "Mcdavid is gone after 2 years.
Nevermind that he's now signed for the next 3, at minimum. At a FAR lower rate than anyone expected. I wish Walman would have taken a 1-2m discount too, but I guess it is what it is

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847791 is a reply to message #847788 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 16:11

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 15:51

Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:45

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:05

McDavid is taking $7M less what he's worth in order to win.. and giving Bowman a hand up.. lots of room to deal.. no room for lottery seekers.

I will say - I hope that Ekholm's contract is declining. He's been a beast for us, but he's 35 now and dealt with a bunch of injury concerns last year. If he wants to be here (and I think he really does), then I'd like to see him agree to a lower number as his role should transition downwards over the next couple years.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847794 is a reply to message #847791 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 16:34

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Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 15:11

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 15:51

Adam wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:45

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:05

McDavid is taking $7M less what he's worth in order to win.. and giving Bowman a hand up.. lots of room to deal.. no room for lottery seekers.

That's what I'm hoping for.. that he values life in Oil Town both socially and professionally more.. than testing his market value.. which would be high.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847765 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:45

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We won't know what McDavid's true long term intentions are for another 2 years now, but I really hope this contract pushes Katz and his band of merry men to a new level of urgency that they have never felt before about winning. Even if McDavid is still thinking in the back of his mind he wants to keep signing here and try to win with his friends, he must know the ongoing risk of him going ramps up the pressure, which is a great thing.

Fix the damn goaltending fellas.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847766 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 11:48

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This is probably best case for other big name players too. If McDavid wasn't signing a top of league deal to set a new bar, the alternative is he just signs a deal that everyone agrees is an outlier and not really useful for any comparison. Kirill, capitalizing on Minny's desperation, really made this easy, because so many players around the top 2 tiers can try to use his 17M now to negotiate

Current top cap hits for 26/27.

Kirill Kaprizov $17,000,000

Leon Draisaitl $14,000,000

Auston Matthews $13,250,000

Nathan MacKinnon $12,600,000

Connor McDavid $12,500,000

Mitchell Marner $12,000,000

Mikko Rantanen $12,000,000

Elias Pettersson $11,600,000

Erik Karlsson $11,500,000

William Nylander $11,500,000

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"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847768 is a reply to message #847766 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 12:12

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 10:48

I think what its turning out to be is that every team is a different market.. some are desperate to have a top player stay in their org.. some are building Cup winners..
McDavid wants to build a Cup winner. 3 year cycle begins Wednesday

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847771 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 12:16

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This is a fantastic deal for the team and gives them a chance to win for a couple more years.

This also cements McDavid as a player who is willing to do whatever it takes to win. If the Oilers can't do it with him in the next 3 years then he deserves a chance somewhere else. Or maybe if the Oilers are still contenders at that point, he just signs again (which honestly I think is his preference).

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847772 is a reply to message #847771 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 12:20

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oilfan94 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 11:16

They'll have $22M in cap space next year with roster listed above.. (cap is $104M)
Bowman will have to earn his paycheque.

Cap will be $113M in 3 years (McDavid's lat) .. then he'll just adjust.. and sign for a little bit more based on the next cap limits..

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847775 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:10

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https://puckpedia.com/player/connor-mcdavid?68e3f800eaf61

Year 1: $850,000 + $13,400,000 bonus
Year 2: $900,000 + $10,750,000 bonus

He didn't even bother with the deferred money contract to get more.

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- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847778 is a reply to message #847775 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:21

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:10

I'm too lazy to check.. what are the advantages, peculiarities to the bonus structure?

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847780 is a reply to message #847778 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:34

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:10

I'm too lazy to check.. what are the advantages, peculiarities to the bonus structure?

Don't think anything special in this deal. Just makes sure he gets as much money as possible up front with the avg of 12.5M, buyout and lockout proof, which every big player gets now. Base salary just follows the min allowed.

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- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847781 is a reply to message #847780 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:40

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:34

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:10

I'm too lazy to check.. what are the advantages, peculiarities to the bonus structure?

OK.. I think NHL contracts normally get paid out monthly or bi-weekly.. so he probably just gets all that money on game #1 in one lump sum and he invests it and makes money on it earlier.

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847783 is a reply to message #847781 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:46

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Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:40

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:34

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:10

I'm too lazy to check.. what are the advantages, peculiarities to the bonus structure?

OK.. I think NHL contracts normally get paid out monthly or bi-weekly.. so he probably just gets all that money on game #1 in one lump sum and he invests it and makes money on it earlier.

Think most players just get their signing bonus July 1st. Dif arrangements can be made, but most guys just get that chunk of cash ASAP.

Definitely better to be paid as much as possible up front. Big boys agents have been helping with that for long time now.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847785 is a reply to message #847783 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 14:47

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Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:46

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:40

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:34

Skookum Jim wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 13:21

Kr55 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 12:10

I'm too lazy to check.. what are the advantages, peculiarities to the bonus structure?

OK.. I think NHL contracts normally get paid out monthly or bi-weekly.. so he probably just gets all that money on game #1 in one lump sum and he invests it and makes money on it earlier.

I think it avoids escrow too. They have a chunk of their salary held back to make sure that the 50/50 thing is in balance. It's either released at year's end or clawed back. But if you're paid in the summer, there is no escrow then so you just get it all (and leave slightly more burden on the rest of the players but oh well).

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847779 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 13:33

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847796 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 17:00

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This also sets him nicely if he wants to leave in 3 years, I cant see how any fan can be mad at him, Oilers are saving 6-8m for the next 3 years to WIN now, if they can't well its not on him anymore.

Also don't give any credit to Jackson or Bowman, from Ryan Rishaug:

A bit more context on how this deal came together.
McDavid and Judd Moldaver came to the determination several days ago that if they were doing a deal it would be 2x12.5m. That was their sweet spot.
They then took a few more days to think it through and as of Sunday night a decision still had not been made.
Monday morning McDavid green lit the deal and the conversation between Moldaver and the Oilers was 5 minutes. He informed them the term and dollars and that was the first time in the entire process any number had been mentioned.
Didn't take long to get it sealed up from

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847798 is a reply to message #847796 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 17:14

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mad90 wrote on Mon, 06 October 2025 17:00

Oh come on, it's hard to do nothing. Even to think to do nothing, is a skill.

Bowman's last meeting with Jackson on the McDavid contract 3 months ago.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

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Re: McDavid re-signs - 2 years, 12.5MM per [message #847797 is a reply to message #847749 ]	Mon, 06 October 2025 17:04

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The Cap space over the next two years based on the current cap projections but it more then likely more:

2026: $22,713,334
2027: $41,325,000

Ball is in Jackson/Bowman court to spend it right

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